Posted on 03/18/2018 7:45:39 AM PDT by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Now contrast this with the Roman Catholic claim that says salvation can only come about if we love Mary or that Mary is necessary for salvastion.
I call upon all Roman Catholics to repudiate the false doctrine of the Roman Catholic church regarding Mary is necessary for salvation.
The Incarnation is "necessary" for salvation in the sense that God has willed it so.
Mary is "necessary" for the Incarnation, again because God has willed it so.
How you can get from those two indisputable facts of Christian doctrine to "Mary is not necessary for salvation" is logic I don't see.
Read your Bible, it's all in there. You may have to read something other than chapters 4-8 of Romans and Galatians, though. The rest of the Bible still matters.
| Saint Anselm says, ‘that as it is impossible for one who is not devout to Mary, and consequently not protected by her, to be saved, so is it impossible for one who recommends himself to her, and consequently is beloved by her, to be lost.’ Saint Antoninus repeats the same thing, and almost in the same words: ‘As it is impossible for those from whom Mary turns her eyes of mercy, to be saved, so also are those towards whom she turns these eyes, and for whom she prays, necessarily saved and glorified.’ Consequently the clients of Mary will necessarily be saved. (p184).
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| But, on the other hand, Mary says in the words applied to her by the church, “He that hearkeneth to me shall not be confounded;’ that is to say, he who hearkeneth to what I say shall not be lost. On which Saint Bonaventure says, ‘O Lady, he who honours thee will be far from damnation.’ And this will still be the case, Saint Hilary observes, even should the person, during the past time have greatly offended God. ‘However great a sinner he may have been,’ says the saint, ‘if he shews himself devout to Mary he will never perish.’(p185) The Glories of Mary, translated from the Italian of St Alphonsus De; Liguori, Founder of the Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer, by A Father of the Same Congregation LONDON: Printed for the Redemptorist Fathers, St Mary’s, Clapham, Surrey; to be had of J.J. Wallwork, 42, Great Marlborough Street, Regent Street, and of all Booksellers. MDCCCLII p184-185. She is the greatest security; she is the source of all my hope - St Bernard (1090-1153) f our life were not under the protection of Mary, we might tremble for our perseverance and salvation . . . In her hands Jesus has placed His almighty power in the order of salvation. He has confided to her all the means of salvation. All the graces of salvation, both natural and spiritual, will be given to us by Mary. She is rich with the riches of God Himself. St. Peter Julian Eymard O Mary, we poor sinners know no other refuge but thee, for thou art our only hope, and on thee do we rely for our salvation. St. Thomas of Villanova Unless the prayers of Mary interposed, there could be no hope of mercy. St. Bridget of Sweden Mary is the whole hope of our salvation. St. Thomas Aquinas All of these stand in contradiction of the New Testament. I find it interesting you want to exclude Romans 4-8 and Galatians as they do address this issue....that is, that Christ, only Christ, is sufficient. Some of the most theologically profound and convincing parts of the New Testament want to be discounted by the Roman Catholic. Very interesting. Christ, and only Christ, is our hope and our salvation. The NT is clear. 24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB 13For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. 19For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven. Colossians 1:13-120 NASB John, who was probably closer to Mary than any of the disciples wrote the following: 6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6 NASB 35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36“But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. 38“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39“This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:35-40 NASB 1Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. 2By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and observe His commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome. 4For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is the One who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ; not with the water only, but with the water and with the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7For there are three that testify: 8the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son. 10The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. 11And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. 13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him. 1 John 5:1-15 NASB
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“...henceforth, all generations will call me ‘blessed...” What part of that flies over their heads?
Maybe they don't read the article.
Yes...Mary was blessed to be the mother of Christ. Nothing more.
Christ died for our sins. Only He died. No one else.
We have faith in only Him for our salvation. No one else.
The NT is clear on this.
Amen, you have it right.
Roman Catholicism has to delete Romans 4-8 and Galatians in order to justify their stance on Mary????
Mary is NOT necessary for salvation.
Any Jewish girl who was a virgin and had the right lineage would have done.
Mary was in the right place at the right time and so God used her.
The incarnation was not necessary for salvation because God willed it, but it was the only way that sin could be overcome.
When a perfect sinless person dies, then death could not hold him because the power of sin is the Law. Since the Law was not broken, then death could be defeated by that person, it could not hold him.
So Jesus living a perfect sinless life in the flesh was able to break the power of sin through his perfect life.
1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
All believers are blessed in Christ.
blessed
http://biblehub.com/greek/3106.htm
makarizó: to bless
Original Word: μακαρίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: makarizó
Phonetic Spelling: (mak-ar-id'-zo)
Short Definition: I deem happy
Definition: I bless, pronounce blessed or happy.
Yup, Mary was happy.
She along with all believers, are.
Sounds like Msgr Pope understands that salvation begins now, here on this earth, just as we have been saying all along.
What’s that got to do with Mary?
The original article is about Jesus and the Cross.
Are you trying to apply the quote from the passage in John to Mary??
No, it applies to Christ.....a grain of wheat dies — (Christ dies) and it will produce much fruit.
You did read the original article, didn’t you?
I did read the article...but I also read your reply [this] to the other poster and in context it sounded like you were trying to apply this to Mary.
It did.
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