[Jan_Sobieski]

Question: What will it take to get those who actually love Jesus Christ to see that the Roman Church is irreparably corrupt? It is so bad, even the Reformation of the Church started by Luther failed miserably. Like Psalm 11 states, "if the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do..."? You cannot reform that which is built on falsehood (e.g. priestly celibacy, papal infallibility, transubstantiation, etc)...

Jeremiah 13:23 "Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil."

[ebb tide]

Question: What will it take to get those who actually love Jesus Christ to see that the Roman Church is irreparably corrupt?

What will it take get those outside the Catholic Church to see that outside of Her, there is no salvation?

[ebb tide]

Why would one who thinks the Roman Catholic Church is irrepably corrupt, take a screen name after one of Her heroes?

[Mrs. Don-o]

Our first hierarchs, when push came to shove:

Peter, James, and John, who had seen Jesus raise Jairus' daughter from the dead and who had seen Him transfigured in glory on Mt. Tabor, would not pray with him for one hour at Gethsemane.

Judas betrayed Him for a fistful of silver.

Peter denied Him 3x (scared of being ID'd by a servant girl!)

The rest ran off, headed for the tall grass.

Only one, John, was faithful, with Jesus' mother, at the foot of the Cross.

This is the caliber of the "select men" Jesus chose. What an auspicious beginning.

I suppose that would have been, for some people, a signal to leave this "irreparably corrupt" Church.

That would be people who do not know about Jesus' power to rescue His Church and to make sinners whole.