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To: ealgeone
Here's what the Bible, that book the Catholic church claims it wrote, says about men in leadership positions.

1 Timothy 3:1-13 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.

Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain. They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience. And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless. Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things. Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:5-16 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

MUST BE married.

And why?

The reason is given.....

"for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church?"

10 posted on 01/24/2018 9:38:39 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

If it had meant “must be married” it would have said “must be married”. But in fact the same Apostle wrote that it was better not to marry. Did he contradict himself? Of course not.


12 posted on 01/24/2018 10:04:51 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: metmom
"MUST be married"? " MUST"? Check your context. If marriage were "required," Paul would have been required to marry!

In the context of marrying (1 Cor 7) Paul wrote, "But I speak this by indulgence, not by commandment.... For I would that all men were [single] even as myself: but every one hath his proper gift from God; one after this manner, and another after that."

(Who's your bishop, by the way? Mine is Bishop Richard Stika in Knoxville, TN).

Yes, yes, Paul recommended married bishops. He also offered a counter-argument:

"The unmarried man is busy with the Lord’s affairs, concerned with pleasing the Lord; but the married man is busy with this world’s demands and occupied with pleasing his wife. This means he is divided." (1 Cor 7:32-33)"

Paul himself was single and wished other to be so. In the end he neither required nor excluded the noble way of "singleness for the Kingdom" Christ spoke of (Matthew 19:12).

Yet as Christ said, "Anyone who is able to receive this, ought to receive it."

33 posted on 01/24/2018 3:43:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (??)
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