Posted on 01/05/2018 1:52:19 PM PST by ebb tide
Hmmm... how about Catholic choir boy ministering?
I’ve been at several Jesuit Universities. I can say confidently - there are a lot of gay Jesuits out there, many of them still practicing (their homosexuality, not necessarily their priesthood)
This Martin character is clearly one, and is highly conflicted with the real nature of his vocation and his sexual urges.
>>And now imagine someone telling you – you are intrinsically disordered, I mean how would that make you feel?
Christianity tells me that I am intrinsically disordered with Original Sin and am a hopeless sinner without the saving grace of Jesus Christ. Yet, suicide is the last thing on my mind.
Perhaps I lack certain mental disorders.
The word “disordered” is not an ugly or offensive word. One could just as easily say “out of the ordinary” and mean the same thing. The problem is, the medical community has used the word to describe some sort of mental or physical ailment or illness and too many people use that definition when reading the Catechism.
What number is it in in the Catechism? We never were taught that in Catholic School. The worst we got was not to touch ourselves impurely, whatever that meant! And the author is right: the only people who talk about it are gay activists.
The Catholic Church teaches that everybody has an intrinsic disorder called Original Sin. It doesn't mean you come into existence personally guilty (you can't be guilty for something you didn't do) but you are personally "bent" by concupiscence: an automatic and persistent tendency to serve a false Trinity (Me, Myself, and I) rather than the True God.
I've taught people with sex-and-gender problems in my RCIA classes, and I always tell them they have areas of inner warp, and so does everybody else.
Don't tell people :You're OK". Tell people the truth: you're a mess, but Jesus already knows that and He is running, running to save you if you will let Him.
This is a lie like most sodomite agitprop and the responsibility for these suicides is entirely the responsibility of homosexual activists.
“I mean LGBT youths are five times, five times more likely to attempt suicide than straight kids. Five times.”
Let me guess that the vast majority of queer youths are not Catholic. Given that, the Catechism is not the source of their problem.
Their problem is that they are “intrinsically disordered”, ie. mentally ill.
Yes. People should not be worried about anything OTHER than going to hell.
What Fr. Martin really means is "language in The Catechism of the Catholic Church God directly contributes to the high level of teen suicides among LGBT young people."
>>Don’t tell people :You’re OK”.
That is the great sin of the homosexual. If you or I have a sexual disorder, we recognize it as such. We hide it, control it, get help for it. The homosexual chooses to have PRIDE in their sexual disorder. Gay PRIDE is not just a poor choice of words in a nominally Christian culture. It is a direct attack on God’s order.
Catechism, 2357
“2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.’ They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.”
Sounds right to me.
“Gay Pride” manages to get 2 of the 7 Deadly Sins in one economical slogan.
>>“Gay Pride” manages to get 2 of the 7 Deadly Sins in one economical slogan.
More like 3 or 4 of them.
Not to ignore or diminish the Roman Catholic LGBT lobby’s pain and dilemma, but, do they have a problem with the Actual Word of ALMIGHTY GOD as in Leviticus, Romans, Corinthians ?
In Catholic school, you don’t get past 100 much less up to 2,357, lol. You have to memorize them all - well, at least you did in my day.
Genuine compassion is to tell the truth. Being sexually attracted to members of the same sex is disordered, as is being sexually attracted to children.
Heh, me to. But I recall memorizing “Baltimore Catechism”, which was intended for elementary school students, rather than the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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