Posted on 01/04/2018 6:12:01 PM PST by Salvation
Amen and second it.
Some folks forget that even for RC, Christ is our head.
Thats an easy one. Pope Francis.
Right. When I first started reading his work, I thought so too.... but how about his post on Noah and the flood a while back or the more recent one about Hell?
Sorry, but I disagree. He does have and preaches views that are non-Biblical.
All of those statements are from Roman Catholics.....some “doctors”, some “fathers”.
In a sane world, THIS is the kind of wise, deep-thinking, sincere, genuine and servants-hearted man who should be living at the Vatican.
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Amen!
Rome likes to say Christ is the head of the church, but equates Mary as Mediator as Jesus is Mediator in spite of the clear teaching of the New Testament there is only ONE mediator....and that is Christ.
Either the NT or Rome is in error.
That is some of the most ill-informed crap I’ve ever heard, and you know it.
How come you never memorize this verse
This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me
“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
Why do you have to infiltrate every Catholic statement. Once again, Go away
It's clear to anyone who reads the Bible without preconception that "the lawless one" is not just a type of anti-Christ or even an anti-Christ, but the Anti-Christ. It's also clear that the beast is a worldwide, socio-political-religious system that is taken in by the lying wonders of the Anti-Christ, who sits at the head of it.
Now, why would such an earnest-sounding, affable sort as this want to muddy the waters on a clear, Biblically sound understanding of end-times prophecy? Could it be that those religions aspiring to worldwide domination are seeking rapproachment, leading to a Neville Chamberlain style peace in our time, via creating a Frankenstein monster of a bastardized religion by mergining Islam with Roman Catholicism?
What might people of that future time call such a socio-religious system, especially if it gains (regains in many instances) political control across most of the world? A beast? The Beast? Who does Islam hate the most? Jews, and by extension Israel. Who does Roman Catholicism deem themselves to have replaced? Jews, and by extension Israel.
That's why this nice old fellow wants to depict evangelical understanding of end-times prophecy in a poor light.
The source and quotes are all Roman Catholic. Are you disavowing them?
How come you never memorize this verse
This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me
I have...in context.
Matthew 26:26-29 | Mark 14:22-24 | Luke 22:14-20 | 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 |
26While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is My body. 27And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, Drink from it, all of you; 28for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. 29But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Fathers kingdom. | 22While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, Take it; this is My body. 23And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.24And He said to them, This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many. 25Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.. | 14When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15And He said to them, I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, Take this and share it among yourselves; 18for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.19And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me. 20And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood. |
23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me. 25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me. 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lords death until He comes. |
Key Phrases/words:
Poured out: In the OT the blood sacrifice was never consumed; it was always poured out. We further have the drink offering which was poured out before God as a sacrifice (Ex 29:40, Numbers 15:4-5).
29.11 ἀνάμνησις, εως f: (derivative of ἀναμιμνῄσκω to cause to remember, 29.10) the means for causing someone to remembermeans of remembering, reminder. ἀλλ ἐν αὐταῖς ἀνάμνησις ἁμαρτιῶν κατ ἐνιαυτόν but in those (sacrifices) there is a yearly reminder of sins or that people have sinned He 10:3. Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 347). New York: United Bible Societies.
Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
If John 6 is read in context, along with John and the NT, one understands we come to Christ in faith.
If not, He mislead everyone He talked to prior to this exchange. Are you willing to say that?
You'd also have to say Paul and Peter mislead the people as well for they did not advance the Roman Catholic position on how one appropriates Christ.
43The next day He purposed to go into Galilee, and He found Philip. And Jesus said to him, Follow Me. 44Now Philip was from Bethsaida, of the city of Andrew and Peter. 45Philip found Nathanael and said to him, We have found Him of whom Moses in the Law and also the Prophets wroteJesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. 46Nathanael said to him, Can any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip said to him, Come and see. 47Jesus saw Nathanael coming to Him, and said of him, Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no deceit! 48Nathanael said to Him, How do You know me? Jesus answered and said to him, Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you. 49Nathanael answered Him, Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel. 50Jesus answered and said to him, Because I said to you that I saw you under the fig tree, do you believe? You will see greater things than these. 51And He said to him, Truly, truly, I say to you, you will see the heavens opened and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man. John 1:43-51 NASB
9Nicodemus said to Him, How can these things be? 10Jesus answered and said to him, Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things? 11Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony. 12If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. 14As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. 20For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God.JOhn 3:9-21 NASB
7There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, Give Me a drink. 8For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. 9Therefore the Samaritan woman said to Him, How is it that You, being a Jew, ask me for a drink since I am a Samaritan woman? (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.) 10Jesus answered and said to her, If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, Give Me a drink, you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water. 11She said to Him, Sir, You have nothing to draw with and the well is deep; where then do You get that living water? 12You are not greater than our father Jacob, are You, who gave us the well, and drank of it himself and his sons and his cattle? 13Jesus answered and said to her, Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again;
14but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life. John 4:7-14 NASB
39You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; 40and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life. 41I do not receive glory from men; 42but I know you, that you do not have the love of God in yourselves. 43I have come in My Fathers name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God? 45Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. 46For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. 47But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words? John 5:39-47 NASB
5For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN? (that is, to bring Christ down), 7or WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS? (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8But what does it say? THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEARTthat is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11For the Scripture says, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED. 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED. Romans 10:5-13 NASB
37Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, Brethren, what shall we do? 38Peter said to them, Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself. 40And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, Be saved from this perverse generation! 41So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. 42They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone kept feeling a sense of awe; and many wonders and signs were taking place through the apostles. 44And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; Acts 2:37-44 NASB
Why do you have to infiltrate every Catholic statement.
Easily shown to be a false statement.
Once again, Go away
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**The book of Daniel makes it clear that the Antichrist is a person.**
Yes. And he will be a copy cat of the Lord in such way as to fool all but the elect. He will, at the least, appear to be of Jewish ancestry; and his pedigree will go far back; far enough back to appear to be the messiah. He will be known by some folks from his birth, and for the years before he goes on to the world stage.
I’m convinced that the devil is working for a Jewish nation that HIS “servant” will rule.
Many people say that the devil doesn’t want a Jewish homeland in Israel. Sure, he rather it not come to that, but as the master deceiver, he works all the angles in his rebellion against God.
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