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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis credited with helping euthanasia law pass in Italy
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| December 19, 2017
| Dorothy Cummings McLean
Posted on 12/20/2017 3:19:26 PM PST by ebb tide
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Critics say the resistance of Catholic politicians to the bill was weakened after Pope Francis November speech to the Pontifical Academy for Life, in which he indicated that people may refuse life-prolonging medical treatment but failed to note that administration of nutrition and hydration are basic humanitarian care rather than medical treatment. According to Italys La Repubblica, and The New York Times, many of the bills supporters, and many Catholics, saw Franciss speech as a green light to the new law.
De Mattei told LifeSiteNews that the Italian Bishops conference did not speak out against the legislation.
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:19:26 PM PST
by
ebb tide
To: ebb tide
To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield, ...
"Great Pope... really seems to care. (About what, I have no idea!)"
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:23:21 PM PST
by
LIConFem
(I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
To: ebb tide
What happened to “Thou shalt not kill”.
So the pope is OK with murder.
Shocking...
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:24:21 PM PST
by
seawolf101
(Member LES DEPLORABLES)
To: ebb tide
“Italians will now be able to write living wills in which they can refuse not only medical treatment, but also hydration and nutrition. “
That is not Euthanasia. That is a basic human right. No one should have the right to force those things on anyone.
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:29:06 PM PST
by
Revel
To: ebb tide
Antichrist Pope. What the heck?
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:38:11 PM PST
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: ebb tide
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:41:28 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: ebb tide
Where are we going, and why is there a pope steering the handbasket?
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:53:04 PM PST
by
BykrBayb
(Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
To: seawolf101
Not with this “pope”.
The old comment, “Is the pope Catholic?” Can’t be said anymore. I doubt this commie is even Christian.
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:54:26 PM PST
by
1scrappymom
(No, I am not a Republican. I am a CONSERVATIVE. PROUD ARMY MOM)
To: ebb tide
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posted on
12/20/2017 3:55:03 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
“Will no one rid us of this meddlesome priest?!”
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posted on
12/20/2017 4:07:00 PM PST
by
Az Joe
(Gloria in excelsis Deo)
To: Revel
Pope John Paul II had some words about it. As I recall, it covered extraordinary means, think a feeding tube was not considered extraordinary but being on a ventilator indefinitely was (as examples). The Catechism covers it too:
Euthanasia
2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.
2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.
Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.
2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.
2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm
Right to life, when taking a life is permitted, abortion precede what I quoted, and suicide follows (see link above)
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posted on
12/20/2017 4:12:01 PM PST
by
Aliska
To: ebb tide
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posted on
12/20/2017 4:29:19 PM PST
by
piytar
(http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
To: piytar
From Ann Barnhardt, “False-prophet forerunner of the anti-Christ”.
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posted on
12/20/2017 5:39:38 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: DuncanWaring
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posted on
12/20/2017 5:49:56 PM PST
by
piytar
(http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
To: Revel; ebb tide
Nutrition and hydration are not medicine. Still less are they instances of aggressive over-intervention. They are basics of palliative care: needed comfort care even for the terminal.
It's a different case if the person's body is not capable of absorbing them, e.g. a dying person in danger of choking on food administered orally, and too frail for NG or surgical interventions.
Even in this case, IV hydration can often keep the patient comfortable. Good palliative care workers know the basics of comfort care. To remove them to deliberately bring on or hasten death, when the patient's body is still capable of processing and using them, comes under the category of murder.
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posted on
12/20/2017 6:01:58 PM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Some things are so obviously depraved that only an ethicist could approve of them.)
To: ebb tide
Have we been so sinful we do not even have a pope to help us?
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posted on
12/20/2017 6:10:42 PM PST
by
JerryBlackwell
(some animals are more equal than others)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
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posted on
12/20/2017 6:26:38 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
To: LIConFem
For those who really want to learn the truth about Jorge Bergoglio, I suggest you spend $9.50 and purchase The Despicable Pope. It is only available in Kindle form from amazon.com. There is no print version of this book first published in Italian in Italy a month ago.
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posted on
12/20/2017 6:45:16 PM PST
by
CdMGuy
To: Mrs. Don-o
So Before IV’s and Feeding Tubes existed then what? You think you have the right to force someone to eat or drink even if they choose not to do so. YOU DON’T.
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posted on
12/20/2017 7:42:47 PM PST
by
Revel
To: piytar
Meanwhile the so-called “real pope” (Benedict) does nothing.
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posted on
12/21/2017 4:37:49 AM PST
by
piusv
(Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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