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Cath Cauc: Francis: Change the Catechism, which Pope Saint John Paul II called...
La Sallette Journey ^ | December 16, 2017 | Paul Anthony Melanson

Posted on 12/18/2017 10:16:32 AM PST by ebb tide

Francis: Change the Catechism, which Pope Saint John Paul II called "a sure norm," because I prefer my own understanding

Lifesite News is reporting that:

"Pope Francis may have begun a new phase in his pontificate: doctrinal change, a priest and former philosophy professor has written.

Italian Fr. Giovanni Scalese, the local Ordinary for Afghanistan, wrote a post titled 'Fase B' (Phase B) on his blog 'Antiquo robore,' arguing that Pope Francis laid out his new plan for doctrinal evolution in the Church in a recent speech.

The October 11 speech to the Pontifical Council for the New Evangelization, in which Pope Francis presented his views on the death penalty, has a 'programmatic' character, Scalese said. It represents a 'turning point.' By concentrating on the details of Francis’s speeches, Scalese argued, some might miss the bigger picture of what the Pope is doing.

In his speech, the Pope challenged previous Catholic teaching by calling the death penalty 'contrary to the Gospel.' He said he would like the Catechism of the Catholic Church to change according to a 'new understanding of Christian truth,' saying that only a 'partial vision can think of ‘the deposit of faith’ as something static.'"

Change the Catechism of the Catholic Church according to a "new understanding of Christian truth"?

The First Vatican Council:

"For the Holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles."

In his Apostolic Constitution Fidei Depositum, Pope John Paul II said that, "The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I approved 25 June last and the publication of which I today order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church's faith and of Catholic doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, Apostolic Tradition and the Church's Magisterium. I declare it to be a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion and a sure norm for teaching the faith. May it serve the renewal to which the Holy Spirit ceaselessly calls the Church of God, the Body of Christ, on her pilgrimage to the undiminished light of the kingdom!"

A sure norm for teaching the faith!  But Francis believes himself wiser than all those who worked on this Catechism. And just who was that?

Again, Pope (Saint) John Paul II:

"It can be said that this catechism is the result of the collaboration of the whole Episcopate of the Catholic Church, who generously accepted my invitation to share responsibility for an enterprise which directly concerns the life of the Church. This response elicits in me a deep feeling of joy, because the harmony of so many voices truly expresses what could be called the symphony of the faith. The achievement of this catechism thus reflects the collegial nature of the Episcopate: it testifies to the Church's catholicity."

We are witnessing a pontiff who forgets that we stand on the shoulders of giants.  A man who believes it is the Church which must change and that this is so because he is "wiser" than all previous Popes, Saints, Doctors and Fathers of the Church - as well as the entire Episcopate combined.

A regular font of humility!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catechism; francischurch
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Francis: Change the Catechism, which Pope Saint John Paul II called "a sure norm," because I prefer my own understanding

1 posted on 12/18/2017 10:16:32 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

He’s moving quickly now, it seems.

Warp speed. God help us...


2 posted on 12/18/2017 10:28:16 AM PST by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: ebb tide

The LifeSite link is excellent: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-pastoral-changes-have-set-the-stage-for-doctrinal-changes-phil


3 posted on 12/18/2017 10:30:07 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: All

Pope Francis -oxymoron


4 posted on 12/18/2017 10:35:45 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Deo volente

Seeing Pope Francis reaching to “correct” the Catechism is like seeing a 3-year-old reaching for a fillet knife.


5 posted on 12/18/2017 10:53:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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To: ebb tide

Forces of Darkness have assaulted Christendom from within and without.


6 posted on 12/18/2017 11:10:06 AM PST by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: ebb tide
Doctrinal Evolution.

Living Constitution.

Render it meaningless.

7 posted on 12/18/2017 11:11:35 AM PST by arthurus (C)
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To: ebb tide

It’s safe to say the “coming schism” has arrived.


9 posted on 12/18/2017 12:15:45 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: Deo volente

Seems I have heard this all before. A “living, breathing Constitution”, yadda yadda.


10 posted on 12/18/2017 1:07:12 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ebb tide

God is keeping BXVI alive for a reason.


11 posted on 12/18/2017 1:13:59 PM PST by Oratam
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To: ebb tide

Just doing what an antipope is supposed to do.


12 posted on 12/18/2017 1:58:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: ebb tide

The Catechism of the Catholic Church needs to be updated with homosexuality entries, etc.

But not this way.


13 posted on 12/18/2017 5:09:51 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
The Catechism of the Catholic Church needs to be updated with homosexuality entries, etc.

Why? What's new on that front?

14 posted on 12/18/2017 5:24:01 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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