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To: Salvation
Catholics are often unaware just how biblical the Sacred Liturgy is.

Unfortunately, incorporating Biblical sections into the liturgy doesn't make it Biblical for the Church.

The design of our traditional churches;

Not Biblical.

the use of candles, incense, and golden vessels;

Never Biblical for a NT Church. This is a failure of hermeneutics. The whole of the Bible is for a Christian's instruction, but not about him nor his church.

the altar;

No alter ever in a NT church. None needed. No sacrifice is made. It is finished.

priests wearing albs and so forth are all depicted in the Scriptures.

Never, ever, for a NT church. Priests are not a NT church office, nor do they appear before 100 AD, during the lives of the Apostles. It is made up using paganism in a later age.

Some of these details were features of the ancient Jewish Temple, but most are reiterated in the Book of Revelation, which describes the liturgy of Heaven.

The church is not the Jewish Temple. The worship in heaven is not the church on earth.

Arch-pope is far from biblical, as is typical for these posts.

4 posted on 11/27/2017 8:43:52 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

From what I see, in this article, does point to Bible.


8 posted on 11/27/2017 9:05:38 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Weird attack. I love the liturgy we use in the LCMS. It is very similar to Catholic in appearance.

For the sake of good order and Biblical remembrance, there is nothing wrong with a traditional / historical structure.

No one is saying that the liturgy saves or is required, but the form of worship is structured and meaningful.

The exact form a church service should take is largely adiaphora, but I’d rather attend a traditional service. Some contemporary services feel disjointed and incomplete, but this is a personal opinion rather than a theological statement.


13 posted on 11/27/2017 9:12:37 AM PST by Tao Yin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

While I admire the deep reverence and desire to worship God in all His glory, I, too, feel the Roman system is one that has little basis in biblical truth. It bears too strong a resemblance to the religion practiced by the Pharisees. In reality, the New Testament model is one of simplicity. It’s strips away all pretense of religion.

I do believe that Christians have considerable freedom in there warship and in what happens when they gather together. But, it is extremely difficult to step back and honestly look at the way the Romans warship when compared to what an honest observer sees in Scripture.


14 posted on 11/27/2017 9:18:24 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Good post, thanks!


30 posted on 11/27/2017 9:40:11 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation

We realize that you do not accept the Catholic Mass and Sacraments. Your loss.

As Catholics, we are blessed with the Body and Blood of Jesus at Mass. Our faith in the words of Jesus. A very special gift of the Eucharist from Jesus that we receive at Mass.

Non-Catholics are always welcome at Mass to experience the worship and love of God and to be in His presence.

May God enlighten you to HIS TRUTH.


80 posted on 11/27/2017 2:35:54 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

** alter **

Who or what got altered? LOL!


83 posted on 11/27/2017 2:59:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Never, ever, for a NT church. Priests are not a NT church office, nor do they appear before 100 AD, during the lives of the Apostles. It is made up using paganism in a later age.

As meaning a distinct sacerdotal class for whom the distinctive word for such is used.

96 posted on 11/27/2017 3:41:04 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.”

Cardinal John Henry Newman
Catholic Convert
Former Protestant and England’s
Foremost Theologian of the 19th Century


117 posted on 11/27/2017 4:58:06 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The Catholic Church seems to me to be an attempt to bring about the authoritarian, works orientated worship of The Old Testament into The New Testament, with a Christian twist. Moses brought the law, but Jesus Christ brought grace and truth. I don’t need to go back under a law orientated worship style.


211 posted on 11/27/2017 8:19:29 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus?)
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