That isnt Lordship salvation the way you described it.
Yes we are to denounce all sin BUT what does that mean? It means Gods way is best, that to transgress His laws is sinful and so someone who is a believer MUST denounce all sin BUT know that, as you rightly said we are not perfect. We will still sin and when I do I run to the cross for forgiveness. BUT i still need to denounce all sin in that it is evil. Denouncing all sin doesnt mean that one will live a sinless life.
In your description of Lordship Salvation I believe you do not understand it. It simply means that when one becomes a believer in Christ they will act like it. They will walk in a manner worthy of Christ. They will walk daily one step in faith and one step in repentance. They will strive to live for God and obey Him NOT as a means for salvation or for forgiveness but rather BECAUSE they are saved and forgiven. They do it out of love for What Christ has done and what the Father has provided in the death of His Son and because of the application of that salvation by the Spirit. They will walk in newness of life knowing that there will be a struggle between the flesh and the Spirit for their lives. They will know that they cannot have Jesus as Saviour UNLESS they have Him as Lord as well.
The position of the “non-Lordship” perspective is that Jesus can be your “Saviour” but you never have to accept Him as Lord of your life. That one can say a prayer, walk an aisle and live like a “hellion” even though they claim Christ as Saviour. That “doctrine” and way of thinking has tarnished the church.
The whole biblical concept of repentance is a turning from sin. Yes it involves a change of mind BUT that chnage of mind leads to a newness of life where the sin we once held dear is not noxious and reprehensible to us. This of course doesnt happen right away but rather does over time in a christians life.
The main points of differentiation between the 2 views is that the Lordship position takes the verses,,,I have been crucified with Christ, i no longer but Christ lives in me...at face value. If one claims to be a believer..act like it.
[[It simply means that when one becomes a believer in Christ they will act like it.]]
Sorry- but I’ve spoken with many folks who practice it and they deny that the church at corinth, and the ephesian church i believe, who were living in sin and rebellion, were ever really saved- despite Paul actually calling them brothers in Christ. They claimed their continual living in sin was proof hey were not “Truly Saved”- Lordship Salvation does not allow for backsliding- period- You following comments are testament to that:
“They will know that they cannot have Jesus as Saviour UNLESS they have Him as Lord as well.”
“If one claims to be a believer..act like it.”
Many Born Again Christians are living in backslidden conditions- Their condition, in the eyes of Lordship Salvation proponents proves that ‘Christ is not Lord in their lives”, and this view simply isn’t biblical
[[The whole biblical concept of repentance is a turning from sin.]]
No I’m sorry, that is not true- Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved- period- it is not conditional upon your self effort to put away sin
I understand lordship salvation just fine thanks- I’ll not get into a long drawn out argument with you on this issue- You are welcome to your opinion but I disagree with it- As I have spoken with many LS proponents and it always boils down to them claiming the things you claimed while denying that they are claiming one must ‘act saved in order to be saved’
When we receive the gift of everlasting life offered to us by the grace of God, we are believing (in our heart, with all our heart) that Jesus IS Lord and He has risen from the dead for our justification. This genuine faith results in a new SPIRITUAL birth where we are declared righteous, a child of God and indwelt and sealed with the Holy Spirit who is given as an "earnest" (like a down payment) of our future inheritance. The presence of the Holy Spirit within us begins a work within to conform us into the image of Christ. He convicts us of sin and moves us to sorrow for sin and confession so that our relationship with our Father is cleansed from unrighteousness.
Like Bob434 said, it is a process of our sanctification and our willingness to see ourselves as God does and to turn from evil to walking in the works He has prepared for us (and enables us) to do. It is Christ working in and through us. Those works, though, are NEVER what saves us - they don't even enter into the equation because it is all what Christ has done for us and not what we do for God that brings salvation. NOT by works of righteousness which we have done but according to HIS mercy, we are saved.
Grace is undeserved, unmerited, unearned, unworked for. We receive the gift through faith. We will come to recognize Jesus IS our Lord and Savior and deserving of all our love and obedience - not in order to be saved but because we are saved. It is through a heart filled with gratitude that we offer ourselves to God for His unspeakable gift.
Anyone who would call this "cheap grace" or "easy believism" just doesn't get it. Nor do those who think a walk down an aisle or saying the "sinner's prayer" or being baptized and raised all their lives in a church doing all the thing they require of them. It is a heartfelt trust. A surrendering of our eternity to Jesus Christ and believing that He is who He said He is. God is who sees the heart and knows the real thing from the faked - and He is who counts.