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To: ebb tide

The Catholics didn’t attack the Nazis during WWII, why should they now? They were neutral during that war. On the other hand, they promoted Mussolini, Franco and Peron and declared fascism most consistent with Catholic social teaching. Over time, the Catholics evolved (maybe out of embarrassment). By the time of John XXIII, the Catholics were o.k. with democracy. By the time of John Paul II, they were o.k. with liberal, democratic capitalism (provided there was a “preferential option” for the poor). With Benedict XVI it was, maybe, back to neutrality. I think a better way to put it, there was a re-emphasis of the primary teaching of the church on faith and morality, and a de-emphasis of social teaching. Now, under Francis, it’s progressive socialism and expressing disdain for capitalism and for the United States in particular. At some point, people are going to recognize that the head of the Catholic Church doesn’t speak for God but for himself and, possibly, whatever is the consensus of the moment of the elite of that church.


2 posted on 09/29/2017 6:28:47 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Redmen4ever

Wow, what have you been reading?


4 posted on 09/29/2017 6:43:07 AM PDT by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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To: Redmen4ever
The Catholics didn’t attack the Nazis during WWII, why should they now?

Facts are your friends and they guard against ill-informed statements.

12 posted on 09/29/2017 7:23:59 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Redmen4ever
The astonishing secret history of the Pope who fought Hitler
14 posted on 09/29/2017 7:29:57 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Redmen4ever
The Catholics didn’t attack the Nazis during WWII

From the link in Post #14:

The third plot again involved German Jesuits and also German military colonel Claus von Stauffenberg. Although the colonel successfully planted a bomb near the Nazi dictator, it failed to kill Hitler. The priests had to flee after the failed attempt. Those unable to escape were executed.

19 posted on 09/29/2017 7:47:04 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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