Posted on 09/16/2017 6:34:09 PM PDT by marshmallow
September 12, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – The only way a Catholic priest can allow divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Holy Communion is if they forgo sexual relations, Cardinal Raymond Burke reaffirmed.
Practicing sexual continence, as the Church requires in a new relationship when a marriage has not been annulled, properly recognizes that marriage, he said.
“The only case in which a priest could admit a person living in an irregular matrimonial union to receive the Sacraments of Penance and Holy Eucharist is the case of a couple who agree to live ‘as brother and sister,’" Cardinal Burke said, “that is to respect the marriage to which they are bound by not living in a marital way with another person.”
In a recent interview with the Hungarian independent Catholic news service Katolikus Válasz, the cardinal also clarified that the “internal forum” cannot be used to determine the nullity of a marriage.
The concept of the “internal forum” has been regularly bandied about since its use at the Synods on the Family preceding Pope Francis’ controversial apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia.
In discussions at the Synods and since then, it has been argued that the internal forum — private discussion with a confessor — could provide context where a penitent, presumably arguing his or her subjective culpability in their objectively sinful situation is limited, could be allowed to return to the sacraments.
The Hungarian outlet asked Cardinal Burke if there are cases where the internal forum can be used to legitimately recognize the invalidity of the first marriage and provide access to the sacraments.
“Such cases do not exist,” Cardinal Burke responded. “No priest has the authority to declare a marriage null in the internal forum.”
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This is an honest question concerning Catholic doctrine...
I marry wife #1. She divorces me. I marry wife #2. We then become Catholic. According to Catholic doctrine, I must live with wife #2 in a sexless relationship in order to receive communion. If wife #1 dies, am I then free to enter into sexual relationship with wife #2 and also receive communion, or is the sexless marriage required in perpetuity?
It’s my understanding that once Wife #1 dies, you are then free to live a conventional married life.
That would certaimly seem to support a black market murder racket.
Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
The definition of discernment is being corrupted. True discernment, in a Christian framework, requires grounding in Scripture and being in tune with the Holy Spirit. It is NOT “if it feels good do it”.
I think I understand this better now :-) thanks
It could be said that some things, like adultery, automatically end a marriage.
Not biblical.
If wife #1 dies, you are free to marry wife #2. You are not actually married to wife #2 until there is a wedding in the Catholic Church.
As far as the "black market murder racket," a person who has their spouse killed in order to marry someone else contracts the second marriage invalidly, according to canon law.
Except that the Bible doesn’t say that, so it would be a human tradition. The Gospel, in one passage only, calls “porneia” a “separate case”. “Porneia” is not the usual word for adultery, but means a marriage which is invalid according to the law, that is, just a shack-up arrangement.
I understand what you're asking, but, in the example you're describing, the people involved ordinarily wouldn't be permitted to join the Church until their marital situation were regularized. Until then, they're objectively living in an ongoing state of adultery. They can't make a good confession and can't receive communion.
Now in extremely rare cases, it *might* be permitted if the priest were completely convinced that the couple could and would live as brother and sister.
The solution of course is to seek a decree of nullity for the first marriage. Depending on circumstances, that might be extremely easy (Wife #1 was actually your long-lost twin sister!), or not.
The difference between judgment and discernment is that when I do it, it’s discernment,...when you do it,....:^)
If no 1 dies, you have fulfilled your lifetime commitment to that marriage.
There can be no sacramental bond if both parties are not baptized, only a natural marriage.
Don’t think so. I was married at 20, my wife was not baptized. I decided to become Catholic, married a Catholic girl, had to get a decree of nullity before doing so. I think if both parties are not baptized possibly so. If one is, definitely you have to do an annulment.
Of course you couldn’t become Catholic till no. 1 was dead, or you had a decree of nullity and a convalidation of your 2nd marriage. I was married for 28 years, went through RCIA,got a decree of nullity, first confession, confirmation, convalidation of my marriage. You also couldn’t have a sexual relationship between your first confession and your convalidation.
” I suspect your Declaration of Nullity was a slam dunk. “
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