Posted on 06/26/2017 1:47:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
On the one hand, remarried Christians should be allowed to take Holy Communion, should they repent of any sins committed.
And Scripture DOES warn against divorced and remarried couples divorcing AGAIN and remarrying each other. In fact, remarrying your original partner after divorcing and remarrying was considered worse than the divorce was in the first place.
On the other hand, I am VERY suspicious of everything coming from Frankie. If he told me that the sun is yellow I’d look out the window and check.
The Impopester will ignore them.
This is not the pope and he is acting more every day like the false prophet. He is less and less subtle and more directly acting like a politician and mouthpiece for all that is wrong with the world. Today he called for one world government to save mankind! From what, the lie of global warming? Jesus already saved mankind on the cross from sin, separation from God, and defeated death itself and did not come to save the planet.
The ‘one world government’ pope???
Has he ever read the Bible?
Just another self important poseur - should be run out of the Church. Take away his financial support and he would quickly find religion.
There have been bad Popes before and we’re still soldiering on.
But Frankie should serve as a warning to all Christians in the world to be ready for Jesus to return, as a thief in the night.
It may be tomorrow; it may be in ten thousand years. But it WILL happen.
Yes, he will ignore them. Their plea to meet with him was delivered in late April! Popester is much to busy bullying Nigeria, clogging family issue councils with opposition forces, destroying the lucrative Knights of Malta, buzzing Burke during his off hours, and insulting Traditional Catholic faithful.
Outrageous.
Enough with clarifying his words time and time and time and time and time again. Boot him and get a new pope who has actually opened the Bible.
Where are you getting that from?
More and more Catholics are waking up to this truth.
Deuteronomy 24: 1-4
and
Jeremiah 3: 1-5
Better that divorce never happens; it is a sin. You might be able to make exceptions for adultery and make it not a sin for the wronged party, but that’s neither here nor there right now.
The point seems to be that once divorce is done, it’s done. I’d need to do more research and reading about remarrying your original partner if you DON’T remarry, but it seems to me that the opinion of the Lord is pretty clear here about going back to your first partner after remarriage.
But again, even that is a sin that can be forgiven; if it happened in my congregation (or remarriage or divorce in general) I would probably insist on public confession and absolution before allowing participation in the Lord’s Supper, but I would allow it.
You said it!
I’m pretty sure I don’t fall into the definition of traditional Catholic faithful, but even I’m insulted by this guy pretty much every time he speaks.
I mean, even though, as I mentioned upthread, I believe that remarried people who have repented should be allowed Communion, I am STILL insulted because the argument—far as I can tell—doesn’t even stem from the Word of God, but from feel-good bleeding heart leftism.
That’s just an insult to the grace of God in general.
Using Old Testament passages against remarrying one’s spouse seems problematic in light of Christ’s later teaching.
As mentioned in post #15, the passages you cited describe natural marriages between Jews- not sacramental marriages of Christians. The Church has always taught that Jesus raised marriage back to the level of a sacrament. See Mark Chapter 10
Not really. Just because Jesus spoke about the Ten Commandments doesn’t mean that we don’t need to learn them, after all. And even if we don’t sacrifice animals in the Temple any more, it’s still worth studying because it gives us deeper understanding of what it means and the character of God.
Anyways.
Jesus said that divorce happens because of the hardness of our hearts.
And our hearts are still hard.
Jesus never said that there’s no such thing as divorce, just that God never meant intended it to happen, and that God hates it. But divorce DOES happen; you just need to look around to see that.
So it’s not any kind of stretch to look at God’s Law involving the behavior of a divorced couple in order to determine what to do when divorce does happen.
And God says that remarriage—except maybe in the case of adultery, but again that’s not relevant to the point at the moment—is sin. But also that re-re-marriage, even to your original partner, is ALSO sin.
But like all sin, divorce and remarriage is covered by the blood of Christ. Confess it; absolve it; don’t do it again. And you’re still part of the Body of Christ.
I’m not Catholic; I don’t believe that ‘church teaching’ is authoritative, only Scripture.
But to answer your objection, if Jesus was changing the institution of marriage, why did he say ‘From the BEGINNING it was not so’? Look at the original text in Greek, and you get that marriage is marriage no matter when it happens; there was never any change in God’s intentions for marriage when he gave the Law to Moses.
God made allowances for divorce because he knows that sin happens, and he did so in order to protect the wronged party. In the Christian life, we also must take marriage VERY seriously.
But if divorce DOES happen, and it will, and if remarriage does happen, and it will, then we can look at the other examples in Scripture to know what to do about it.
God says very clearly that remarrying your original partner after divorcing a second wife or husband is abominable. I see no reason to argue with that.
Hey for $500 you can get an annulment from your spouse of 20 years who you have 3 kids with and are divorced. Then you can both take communion again.
Now that’s just sad. I’m pretty sure that the Catholics on the board would object to that happening. But I’m also pretty sure that it does happen.
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