‘FRANCIS’ CARDINALS SEIZE GROUND AT US SPRING ASSEMBLY (Catholic Caucus)

The Tablet ^ | June 21, 2017 | Michael Sean Winters

[NYer]

Bishops intervene so strongly, that USCCB President scrapped plans to disband the working group on immigration

After years of avoiding contentious discussions in public session, and holding debates behind closed doors in executive session, this year’s spring general assembly of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops in Indianapolis witnessed a return to the often heated debates of the 1970s and 1980s.

Leading the discussion were two of the three Americans made cardinals at last November’s consistory, Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark - who last month welcomed an LGBT Catholic group to his Cathedral of the Sacred Heart - and Cardinal Blase Cupich of Chicago. “I was very pleased with the robust and mature discussion of complex issues like immigration, health care and religious liberty,” Cardinal Cupich told The Tablet in a phone interview at the conclusion of the public sessions. “There is a growing consensus on these issues as people are willing to grapple with their complexity.” 

Cardinal Cupich has long been a force at meetings of the bishops’ conference, but his business-like interventions were more easily ignored when he was Bishop of Spokane, Washington.

Cardinal Tobin’s interventions meanwhile had a more prophetic quality, as he called his brother bishops to stand by immigrants at a time when fear has invaded the immigrant community. He questioned the “optics” of making the ad hoc committee on religious liberty a permanent, standing committee, while disbanding a working group on immigration. Indeed, so strong were the interventions, that USCCB President Cardinal Daniel DiNardo scrapped plans to disband the working group on immigration. Fifty-three bishops voted against making the religious liberty committee permanent, against 132 votes in favour.

The bishops also had a forceful discussion about health care. In 2009, the bishops’ conference opposed President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, but once enacted, they never called for its repeal. President Trump’s repeal proposals, currently making their way through Congress, would throw as many as 23 million people off the health insurance rolls and negatively affect the ability of Catholic hospitals to keep their doors open.

Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, said that the Obama health care law had “a lot of dishonesty”, repeating Republican complaints about the law. But, Bishop George Thomas of Helena, Montana warned of the “catastrophic effects” of the Republican proposals to repeal and replace the Obama-era law. Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego agreed with Bishop Thomas’s warning, calling attention to the “breathtaking nature of the assault on a core principle of Catholic social teaching…that health care is a fundamental human right and government is its ultimate guarantor.”

PICTURE: Cardinal Tobin of Newark - pictured giving the homily during a Mass at which he took possession of his titular church of St Mary of the Graces in Rome on 29 January - lead the discussions

 

[NYer]

CATHOLIC CAUCUS

Catholic ping!

[ebb tide]

Indeed, so strong were the interventions, that USCCB President Cardinal Daniel DiNardo scrapped plans to disband the working group on immigration.

Dinardo is wimp. He refused to join a massive protest in objection of Planned Parenthood's largest abortion facility in North America, right in his backyard.

Houston's New Abortion Mega Center

Watching EWTN coverage of the Vigil Mass, I wondered how many Catholics in the audience were aware that Planned Parenthood's newest and the second largest abortion super center in the world (China has the first), is located in the Cardinal's back yard, on I- 45, just a few miles from the Archdiocese's new Cathedral and renovated Chancery Office.

The 78,000 square foot free standing Planned Parenthood (PP) flagship houses fully-licensed ambulatory surgical suites for late-term infanticide killings up to six months plus one week gestation, birth prevention (read abortifacients) facilities, and regional administrative offices for 35 counties in Southeast Texas and Louisiana. Ironically, the renovated building, once a bank, is fashioned in the form of a cash register, a constant reminder to everyone that money is the nexus of PP. Each year, the lives of more than 80,000 babies are snuffed out by chemical and surgical abortion in PP's Galveston-Houston facilities at $500 to $2,500 per life. Planned Parenthood is hoping that business will pick up with its new regional facility. PP says it cannot be held accountable for "faulty or omitted contraception," hence the need for abortion as a back-up.

The new massive death machine located at the inner city intersection of four black and Hispanic neighborhoods in Houston will continue to serve as a genocidal extermination center for thousands of babies of minority women of low income. The nearby University of Houston and Texas Southern University will provide additional fodder for PP's anti-life engine.

DiNardo Silent on Western Hemisphere's Largest Aboritorium

Imagine how inspired, how fired up, Cardinal DiNardo's listeners at the Vigil Mass would have been to hear how the Cardinal, like a modern-day Saint George, had undertaken a well-orchestrated and relentless campaign to slay the Planned Parenthood dragon. How he rallied his flock of one and a half million laypeople in opposition to the mega abortion center in his Archdiocese. Surely, this is stuff that legends are made of.

But alas! DiNardo was religiously silent on the subject at the Pro-life Vigil Mass. As silent as he had been the year before at the 2010 Vigil Mass, shortly after PP had announced its intensions to build its new Murder Inc. complex in Houston.

True to their mission, many national, state and especially Houston pro-life groups have been picketing and protesting PP's massive killing center since day one. But Cardinal DiNardo, the Chair of AmChurch's National Pro-Life Office, has been conspicuously silent over the past two years.

Cardinal DiNardo and Houston's Planned Parenthood Abortion Supercenter

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Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego agreed with Bishop Thomas’s warning, calling attention to the “breathtaking nature of the assault on a core principle of Catholic social teaching…that health care is a fundamental human right and government is its ultimate guarantor.”

Never saw that in Catholic teaching, nor in the U.S. Constitution.

Where was the "government" when the good Samaratin helped the victim of robbers?

[piusv]

“United States Conference of Catholic Bishops”: a misnomer if I ever saw one

[ebb tide]

Think of it as the “United States Conference of Communist Bishops”.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

If these communists believe in single payer, open borders, income redistribution, etc., then let them agree to pay real estate taxes on all their churches in America, as well as other church properties. Have some skin in the game!

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Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego agreed with Bishop Thomas’s warning, calling attention to the “breathtaking nature of the assault on a core principle of Catholic social teaching…that health care is a fundamental human right and government is its ultimate guarantor.”

The same government that uses tax-payer funds to guarantee the murder of children in their mothers' wombs?

[Arthur McGowan]

Michael Sean Winters, katholyk commentator and out-and-proud sodomite.

[circlecity]

"a core principle of Catholic social teaching…that health care is a fundamental human right and government is its ultimate guarantor.”

This is nothing more than coveting, a violation of the 10th commandment.

[ebb tide]

I discovered that a guy I went to seminary with more than twenty years ago had turned into a kind of quixotic shill for the Catholic Church's opposition to DC Gay marriage. Michael Sean Winters was a very flamboyant gay man in the seminary. There is literally no other way to describe him. I always liked him in those days, and was always pleased that there did not seem to be any erotic energy between us. I liked hearing all his liberal postulations and glosses. I shared many of his views. But by nature I am more reserved about letting people know what I am thinking, even though gregariousness is a part of my nature. When I trust someone then it is a different story. Michael Winters was not someone you would trust, because he was really all over the place. It saddened me to hear other seminarians constantly make cruel fun of him for his psychological difficulties and his labyrinthine liberalism. I recall sitting in the refectory with him being entertained by his analysis of certain Church trends as "fascism". Being given personally to trying to understand systems of thought qua systems, I marveled that Michael did not seem to grasp in the inherently inhospitable nature of Catholic polity towards his logic, such as it was. Further, I remember humorously that Greg Rohde, who I think went on to be a Assistant Secretary of Commerce, was sitting there amazed by Michael's scattershot discussion, especially when he digressed into one of his favorite topics -- what a big girl our rector Larry Terrien was. (It really is amazing how far "big girls" go in the Roman Church. I remember seeing Terrien after I left the seminary in a famous gay restaurant in Dupont Circle).

[Slyfox]

Years ago, I used to get my copy of the Wanderer on Friday afternoon and sit and read the whole thing - it would get my blood boiling.

Back in the 80s we had all these truly unfit bishops who did nothing but stick their thumbs in our eyes when we went to them with legitimate concerns about the faith.

Then, JPII cleaned it up to the point where, yeah we still had a few idiot bishops here and there, but for the most part they had either died off or had decided to shut the heck up, probably hoping for a new time with a more congenial pope.

Now they have pope Frankie, the one they have been hoping (not praying) for.

The Lord must be a-coming soon or else he is going to have to apologize to JPII bigtime.

[heterosupremacist]

Where shall I begin? 'Abortion Mega Center'? DiNardo Silent on Western Hemisphere's Largest Aboritorium'? "... that health care is a fundamental human right and government is its ultimate guarantor.”? “I was very pleased with the robust and mature discussion of complex issues like immigration, health care and religious liberty,” Cardinal Cupich told The Tablet in a phone interview at the conclusion of the public sessions. “There is a growing consensus on these issues as people are willing to grapple with their complexity.” "Bishop George Thomas of Helena, Montana warned of the “catastrophic effects” of the Republican proposals to repeal and replace the Obama-era law. Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego agreed with Bishop Thomas’s warning..." My comment for this post would be dozens of pages. There is so much to address here, I decided to bookmark and reply tomorrow. †Dominus vobiscum†

[heterosupremacist]

IDK Y, but the formatting has been quirky, (paragraphs and spacing) in the comment view do not match the posted view.
I apologize.

[Arthur McGowan]

I never for a moment, in four years, got any kind of “big girl” vibe from Terrien. I can envision his going to a “gay” restaurant—I can’t imagine how any restaurant near Dupont Circle could NOT be “gay”—but he himself? No. Michael Sean Winters was projecting. He is also as dumb as a bag of doorknobs.

[Arthur McGowan]

Notice how conservative bishops “repeat Republican talking points,” but lefty bishops just state facts?

[Arthur McGowan]

Here’s the whole thing. Good stuff.

http://throwthebumsoutin2010.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-is-michael-sean-winters-what-is-his.html

[Arthur McGowan]

This seems to be the source. Winters’s mind is a train wreck.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/24632

[Arthur McGowan]

This seems to be the source. Winters’s mind is a train wreck.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/24632