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To: ealgeone

Some may regard it that way.

We have dual natures in us, believers are both saved and sinner at the same time here. The sin nature still needs to be controlled and it will be, albeit imperfectly. Our loves as believers until we die, is our sanctification process where we grow as people and in our faith and this implies we increase our self control over time to minimize what we recognize to be our problem sins and to not just mentally agree with God we need to change, but also control the body, ie the tongue, the eyes, the stuff we are basically embarrassed and ashamed we are inherently drawn towards that we know is bad. For us, and often for others.

Some are just grateful for this fact that God won’t give up on us. It is part of trusting God at His word. Understanding that God did not set up these things to prevent us from being with Him, but that He provided a way, the same way, for all to be with Him, if they desire. When we screw up we know that we can sincerely ask for forgiveness and be assured He will, because we know He is on our side.

As God saves us entirely, with nothing we do counting towards our own salvation, and He says He will never take it away from us, then there isn’t anything we can do to lose it.

I would say if one thinks this grants them a license to sin more and sin like crazy and that they can somehow demand God must save them on a technicality, I would really seriously have to question if that person was genuinely saved. Because real believers do not try to pull this kind of jerk move on God.


5 posted on 06/08/2017 5:58:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I halfway agree. God’s Salvation is eternal. It is impeccable. It is undeserved, and can’t be earned.

It is a gift freely given by God. If we reject God, that is turning away from His gift of Salvation.

We reject God every time we sin. Fortunately, we can seek His forgiveness, and return to Him.

However, if we die resisting God, then Hell is our reward.

Salvation never goes away, but we are always able to reject it.


6 posted on 06/08/2017 6:18:11 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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