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When Raymond Arroyo, in his searching questions, raises the problem that Pope Francis himself has encouraged the Argentine bishops in their progressive understanding of

Amoris Laetitia, Cardinal Müller responds that he is not glad “that the bishops interpret the pope, the pope interprets the bishops,” adding: “We have some rules how to act in the Church.” The cardinal adds that, after two synods and a papal authoritative word in this matter, the discussion should be “finished.”

Yet the pope has congratulated the Argentinian and Maltese bishops as having the correct interpretation of his heretical Amoris Laetitia. Müller is willingly ignoring the heretic in Domus Sanctae Marthae.

The dubia was presented to not only Pope Francis, but also to Müller, the Prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. Müller is a pathetic quisling for not addressing the dubia directly.

1 posted on 05/27/2017 8:59:36 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

We can kick this can down the road for only so long.


2 posted on 05/27/2017 9:23:29 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ebb tide

Why so much about “Amoris Laetitia?” A penchant for idiocy from the popster? Just a question.


3 posted on 05/27/2017 9:27:35 PM PDT by Fungi (No tagline. Suggestions invited.)
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To: ebb tide
This interview was very distressing, because we had held out at least a modicum of hope for our chief there at the CDF.

He whitewashed, sidestepped, equivocated, dismissed, downplayed: what a virtuoso ballet performance!
4 posted on 05/27/2017 11:32:38 PM PDT by jobim
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A shameful, embarrassing interview. A bureaucrat clinging to a prestigious job. Most likely, he tells himself he is indispensable.


7 posted on 05/28/2017 2:30:08 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: ebb tide

The Dubia seems to have fallen into a black hole.


8 posted on 05/28/2017 4:46:22 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ebb tide
When asked about the possible reconciliation with the Society of St. Pius X, Cardinal Müller responds with the words: “It needs time,” because it is not only about “signing a document” but also about the change of heart. Some of the members of the SSPX, he adds, think “we [ourselves] are the right Catholics.” They have to accept the “hierarchical communion” of the Church, as well as the creed, the pope’s authority and the councils. A “deeper reconciliation” is needed, according to Müller.

Does Bishop Fellay know this? Is he ready to "accept" the Vatican II Council?

9 posted on 05/28/2017 4:50:32 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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Cardinal Müller also explains to Raymond Arroyo that he generally agrees with Cardinal Robert Sarah’s claim that we have a “crisis of the liturgy,” but he insists that this crisis goes back to before the Second Vatican Council.

When those in the hierarchy realize that it isn't just a "Crisis of Liturgy", but a "Crisis of Faith", then perhaps the Crisis will start to get resolved. Until then, it is all empty words and impotent actions.

10 posted on 05/28/2017 4:53:46 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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“The German cardinal states that, also with the traditional Latin Mass, one could celebrate Mass quickly – even in ten minutes – without entering into the mystery of the Mass.”

Uh...I’m betting that nobody over 60 ever experienced a Latin Mass being shorter than today’s typical Sunday Mass.

These attempts to pretend there is no controversy or need for clarification
are embarrassing and unhelpful.


11 posted on 05/28/2017 6:48:18 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Francis is effect, not cause, IMO.

There IS a problem with the Church. I’m not smart enough or knowledgeable enough to describe it clearly, I see it sort of “through a glass, darkly”.

But look at Quebec, and now Ireland. When the outward structures of the Church give way, the Christian faith of the congregations disappears in a heartbeat. Who would have predicted in 1965 that Quebec would become a leading citadel of secular hedonism? Who would have predicted in 1995, or 2000 for that matter, that the leading electoral criterion to become Prime Minister of Ireland would be being an out gay man of Indian descent?


12 posted on 05/28/2017 6:57:31 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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