Posted on 05/12/2017 7:10:58 AM PDT by Salvation
Satan has your mind so bound that you post the scriptures and hear something Paul did not write! In your lost state, I am not even surprised. You hear not the still small voice, but you hear what you want to hear, to support the pride-in-self-striving your belief is based in.
Catholicism has substituted saints for specific gods, pagan worship for real worship.
Wherever did you get this idea?
The priest in catholiciism cannot afford to see the duplicity and contradictions in their religion else they would leave and be born from above, instead of leading people along satans 'striving for salvation' broad road to oblivion for rejecting the True Grace of God in Christ. I eternal life stops somewhere, it was not eternal to start with! But reading what JESUS said is the simple solution to the conundrum!
Look at what twists your religion puts on the simple words of JESUS, so that they can keep you trusting in your devotion to their priestly ritual to have Eternal Life ... you are continuously promoting demonic blasphemy so you can feel you have a stake in obtaining eternal life, by mumbo jumbo, sacramental fealty! THAT IS A DEMONIC LIE. Jesus told you what work you must do to have eternal life, but you prefer to rely on your fealty to ritual rather than do what JESUS said: John 6:28 They (the catholics who want to rely on their work to obtain eternal life) said therefore unto him, ‘What may we do that we may work the works of God?’ 29 Jesus answered and said to them, ‘This is the work of God, that ye may believe in him whom He did send.’
You are shown but do not see, you are told but do not hear.
A critical point that Catholics HAVE to overlook in order to justify their interpretation of the Last Supper.
And Jesus said this about the Law.
Matthew 5:17-20 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
There’s not one Scripture that tells us that Peter was put in charge of the disciples by Jesus.
For context:
60Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this said, “This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?” 61But Jesus, conscious that His disciples grumbled at this, said to them, “Does this cause you to stumble? 62“What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?
63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
64“But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”
66As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.
67So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?” 68Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69“We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.” 70Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?” 71Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him. John 6:60-71 NASB
I read English and have a working knowlege of the Greek. I know from reading the words inscripturated by the Holy Spirit what He is saying that my Master Jesus said, and keeps on saying. And I know the difference between figurative and literal speech modes and how they are to be applied.
You presume too much. Your apparent inability to grasp the meaning in context, when it is so plain, is baffling. Did you read at all what Msg. Pope said in the article above?
May you begin to understand instead of profaning the word of God.
The meaning of the Last Supper is not foolish, as it seems to be for you, making the elements of the Remembrance Supper into something they are not and cannot be. The meaning and purpose of the memorial is spiritually discerned, and without the guidance of the Holy Spirit one only has a wooden interpretation, of the sort you've offered.
It is clear that I can't help you, and your advisors are holding you back from confronting Bible truths. Do you understand the meaning of Matthew 13:10-15?
Excellent point, MM. I’ll remember it. Thanks for the discerning application of this nugget of truth.
“Catholicism has substituted saints for specific gods, pagan worship for real worship. Wherever did you get this idea?
One of your “Cardinals” quoted upthread - and of course history.
“Again, context would solve this problem for the Catholic. “
Aren’t you assuming an objective audience that seeks truth??
I suggest you review the thread. That audience is not present yet.
You would be correct...sad to say though.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
Yet we only have the written words of Paul.
And the context of 2 Thess gives us a good idea of what those traditions were. And they are nothing we see the Catholic claim today.
Obviously there is a difference in the Faith of the Apostles and members of the Body of Christ and the faith of (30,000) protest churches that believe their own doctrines.
Some claim faith in Jesus as God, but then go their own way and only accept some of His teachings.
You continue to lose credibility by posting this routinely debunked claim of 30,000 protest churches.
A more accurate statement is there is a difference in the beliefs of the RCC and what is revealed in Scripture as has been shown in this, and many other threads.
This is why I have stopped debating with these “super Christians” because it is a waste of time.
Good thing Paul didn’t have your mindset.
You are not quite grasping the argument here.
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