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1 posted on 02/17/2017 3:22:32 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/17/2017 3:23:00 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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The schism has existed for 50 years; it was just lurking under the radar. This Pope has chosen to contradict the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself.


5 posted on 02/17/2017 4:31:49 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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In a very small circle, Pope Francis is said to have self-critically further explained himself as follows: 'It is not to be excluded that I will enter history as the one who split the Catholic Church'. [Im kleinsten Kreis soll Franziskus sich selbstkritisch schon so erklärt haben: "Nicht ausgeschlossen, dass ich als derjenige in die Geschichte eingehen werde, der die katholische Kirchegespalten hat."]

Pope Says He May Split the Catholic Church, According to Der Spiegel

8 posted on 02/17/2017 9:26:26 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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What part of Jesus admonishment to Mary Magdeline do these pontifical educated heretics don’t get when he told her to, “Go and sin no more!” “Where are your accusers?” Yes, we all sin, but God does not ignore that sin. Yes God offers mercy and clemency, but not at the expense of right and wrong. God does not tell us it is okay to keep making the bad choice just because we already sinned. He tells us to repent. To enter through the narrow gate. To make the hard choices. God would tell the divorced that your new marriage is adultery and not okay. God has already told us that you can go and get a decree from the Rabbi, but that He does not recognize that paper or decree and that what ever He has joined can not be dissolved. The two are one flesh. In God’s own words he rebukes these bishops, cardinals, and pope for their heretical writings and false statements. Societies and ages come and go but the God of all ages does not change and the His manifested word of truth does not alter and only sinful men turn and deflect and hide from the truth and speak pleasantries and boastful things for their own ego. The Christian life is hard and difficult in a sinful world that hates and persecutes those that follow the truth and Christ’s word.

It is Christ and not the administrators of the Church that decides what is sin and what is marriage. Sex outside of marriage is sinful. Marriage since the creation of man is one man and one women and joined by God. Neither institutions, religions, governments, kings, monarchs, or any entity designed by man decides these only God our creator. Marriage is marriage and if one partners fails or breaks that bond it is tragic but does not give the other party permission to remarry. We do not chose when earthquakes and wars, and disease strike us either, they do and will and the innocent suffer with the guilty and who is to decide or challenge the will of God in these matters? Nobody can as the book of Job tells us and Christ told us when the apostles asked why the innocent die when the building fell. Jesus said to repent.

And as for the Catholic church granting annulments because they say a marriage never took place is often and tragically misused and abused. Men fail but not God. Only the Catholic Church does not grant divorce as Jesus said there is no divorce. Other religions and supposedly Christian denominations openly allow divorce and now some of them gay marriage, but these other denominations do not dispense the blessed sacraments so this does not affect who receives communion and the body and blood of Christ as they do not offer it and are not in communion with the universal Catholic Church. Men fail and we now have a bad pope and bad cardinals creating disunity in the body of the Church because of their heresy. Jesus will deal with this in His own good time and judgement. Jesus told us when He comes back that people will be as in the days of Noah. We are there now.

9 posted on 02/17/2017 10:01:43 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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"this is casting aside the message of the Gospel"

We may be at a point when we'll be reminded that the Church can correct her pope, and not the other way around.

20 posted on 02/18/2017 8:40:36 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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