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Long Read: What Liberal Intellectuals Get Wrong about Transgenderism
Catholic Herald ^ | January 13, 2017 | John Milbank

Posted on 01/15/2017 3:54:26 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

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1 posted on 01/15/2017 3:54:26 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: sauropod

Bkmk


2 posted on 01/15/2017 4:00:21 AM PST by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

For later reading...


3 posted on 01/15/2017 4:14:18 AM PST by woweeitsme
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To: sauropod

Cutting off your thing and wearing a dress doesn’t make you a woman.


4 posted on 01/15/2017 4:15:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: BlessedBeGod

for later


5 posted on 01/15/2017 4:32:28 AM PST by sphinx
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To: BlessedBeGod

This guy thinks we needed Liberalisim (a vast misnomer) to treat the sexually confused with compassion even as he argues that the Left have other motives. Talk about confused...


6 posted on 01/15/2017 4:34:03 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job....)
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To: TalBlack

Yeah, he lost me at surgery for people “in extremis”. I hate people who try to appease libs.


7 posted on 01/15/2017 5:00:02 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: BlessedBeGod

Really quite a well-written article.


8 posted on 01/15/2017 5:08:37 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: TalBlack

Perhaps the confusion is inherent in the topic he chose to discuss. Liberals are full of contradictions and their world view is illogical.

And when you get down to it, liberals always claim to have a corner on compassion. However, they almost invariably turn around and use their self-anointed status as being the most compassionate as a rationale for committing the most egregious acts of bullying. And we have seen where liberalism goes when it runs unchecked—something like 100 million murdered in the last century, and that does not take into account the billion babies murdered in what should have been the most nurturing place imaginable, their mothers’ wombs.


9 posted on 01/15/2017 5:12:51 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: TalBlack

Everyone should be treated with compassion if a person wants to live like Christ


10 posted on 01/15/2017 5:17:25 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: exDemMom

Liberalism - post modern Liberalism, is more Satanic in nature.


11 posted on 01/15/2017 5:19:12 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: BlessedBeGod

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12 posted on 01/15/2017 5:19:32 AM PST by Mercat (Men never do evil so fully and cheerfully as when they do it out of conscience.” (Blaise Pascal))
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To: BlessedBeGod

Will ping for later reading.

Personally I have been open minded for years..... that is, it would tick me off to read some yahoo beat or killed queers, trannies etc. I was always “let them do whatever bizarre thing they do in private and leave them alone”.

But it’s no longer in private.....they have to rub our noses in it constantly. Their perversions are now societal norms. This must be reversed. It is a Marxist ploy to destroy western culture and I for one am no longer going to stand by and accept it.


13 posted on 01/15/2017 5:31:15 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Everyone should be treated with compassion if a person wants to live like Christ

The money changers weren't, they and their den of thieves.

And I rather doubt the cunny changers, and their den of perves, are owed my compassion either.

14 posted on 01/15/2017 5:32:13 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: BlessedBeGod

I have a simple test. Put all these people in a real manly boot camp (not this joke of military accommodating them that we have now), and see how they fare.

Sure, there might be a Seal who is gay out there, but that is hardly the point: the only gender I know are smart vs stupid, strong vs weak, brave and courageous vs. cowardly traitors.


15 posted on 01/15/2017 5:44:26 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: BlessedBeGod

I have a simple test. Put all these people in a real manly boot camp (not this joke of military accommodating them that we have now), and see how they fare.

Sure, there might be a Seal who is gay out there, but that is hardly the point: the only gender I know are smart vs stupid, strong vs weak, brave and courageous vs. cowardly traitors.


16 posted on 01/15/2017 5:44:27 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: miss marmelstein

WE live in a “civilized” society completely divorced from the harsh neolithic like reality of man’s impulses. The roving bands of nomadic men who sacked happy villages having “transgender operations” are known throughout history. Sociologically we see happen everyday with Swedish girls and boys who praise their “freedom” to choose a gender but only end up befriending islamic boyfriends who subjugate the first against all artistic endeavours and the latter to have heads cut off.

I have a female friend who, I kid you not, kept priding herself how she was for abortion, wanted to pole dance and do all those things her dad did not want her to do, and when he told her that getting a muslim boyfriend was absolute insanity, she did it anyways. For, like, 4 years she was put under a veil, getting her biscuits from this dude until there was a divorce.

I am persuaded that the transgender movement is self-hating mysoginistic behind its mysandrist talk, and thus ends up somehow converging with islamics.


17 posted on 01/15/2017 5:51:04 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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To: exDemMom

Good points. For many years I have been telling “liberal” “progressive” friends: Remember this moment and my question to you, which is this: what issues you never considered or even heard of will you be demanding action on in a year or two or three, and will your demands at that future time invalidate who you are today?


18 posted on 01/15/2017 5:51:13 AM PST by Montaignes Cat
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To: TalBlack
One can treat them with compassion without entertaining their delusions (even in extremis). Unfortunately that is not what the confused author of this piece is suggesting.
19 posted on 01/15/2017 5:56:07 AM PST by GCC Catholic (Make America Great Again!)
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To: atc23

Compassion does not mean letting gays enter a church to shape their own agendas there or feel like they are entitled to belong there.

BEing a Christian is anything than “rights” entitlements. IT also is having compassion enough for someone who is wrong to tell them they are wrong to the risk of one’s health. It takes courage to be unPC and confront these people. It is what Christ did on the cross, never compromising His way for their sake but opposing it all the way of their protesting him in dissociative crucifiction at the cross.

The idea is to go there as a sinner and humble yourself and stay away from worldly life, using food, relationships and all these things we do right in this world as a metaphor of sort for being fed by the Spirit instead of being used and sacrificed by it in its consuming us the way evil spirits push islamic suicide bombers or gays to submit to their partners wishes “out of love”

“Love” and Bushist “comapssionate conservatism” so called, is one heck of an abused, debauched and perverted term these days, completely highjacked.


20 posted on 01/15/2017 5:56:17 AM PST by lavaroise (s)
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