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To: ealgeone

Respectfully, it is you who might do the research. Understandably, Protestants know little about the true Catholic Church. Indeed, most modern Catholics are no more knowledgable on this issue than Protestants. And yes, there are a “whole bunch” of modern Catholics who are not following the true teachings of the Church.

The “Catholics” that you and most Protestants criticize (often correctly in my view) are Catholics who have been led astray from the true Catholic faith by the Modernist and Modernist-leaning popes, bishops and priests that comprise the Catholic Church of the modern bishops today. The novel theology and liturgy they follow was spawned by the Second Vatican Council. And, like Protestantism, “modern” Catholicism is always “evolving”.

Traditional Catholics make up an incredibly small part of the entire Catholic Church today, probably no more than a percentage in the low single digits. Most of the popes since Vatican II have done everything in their “earthly” power to silence the holy men and their followers who adhere to the true faith. But while it is never reported by the Satanic, secular media, traditional Catholicism is growing dramatically while the Church being led by the modern bishops is in a free fall. Most Protestant religions are in no better shape.


18 posted on 01/15/2017 6:45:36 AM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: tomsbartoo
Although we knew the mind of the bishops from the petitions which we had received from them, namely, that the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin be finally defined, nevertheless, on February 2, 1849,[27] we sent an Encyclical Letter from Gaeta to all our venerable brethren, the bishops of the Catholic world, that they should offer prayers to God and then tell us in writing what the piety and devotion of their faithful was in regard to the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God. We likewise inquired what the bishops themselves thought about defining this doctrine and what their wishes were in regard to making known with all possible solemnity our supreme judgment.

http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_pi09id.htm

See, with enough popular opinion the doctrine as made. Talk it up long enough and it will pass.

Same thing is happening with the Fifth Marian dogma.

Enough popular support is going to get it passed.

If this was something so clear, so solid, it would not need a vote to pass it. The pope should have just declared it.

This is not a biblical way to determine dogma.

In fact, the catholic encyclopedia online says "No direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture." There is even the objection from some of the ECFs catholics love to cite...yet these are dismissed as being in error. These ECFs are Origen, St. Basil and St. Chrysostom.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm

This is not a biblical way to determine dogma.

19 posted on 01/15/2017 2:59:59 PM PST by ealgeone
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