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Mainz: Officially distanced from Amoris-Laetitia materials
Kathnet ^ | December 7, 2007

Posted on 12/07/2016 9:29:26 AM PST by ebb tide

Official Peter Hilger: "I explicitly dissociate myself from the one-sided interpretation of AL, which is made in the material of the diocesan rectorate," actually "as" opposite "and" overcoming "of FC." Mainz (kath.net) The official of the Diocese of Mainz dissociates itself from the material, the slides and the accompanying material to "Amoris Laetita" (AL) of the Department of Adult Care of the Episcopal Ordinariat of Mainz. In a statement, published by the official Peter Hilger on his Facebook page, it says literally: "The Bishops' Office of Mainz was not involved in the preparation of the above-mentioned work material. As an official, I expressly dissociate myself from the one-sided interpretation of AL in the work material - in fact, as "opposite" and "overcoming" of FC *. I see this differently: AL is to be interpreted in the church teaching tradition, ie: in the tradition of FC. Prelate Dr. Peter Hilger, official, Mainz, 5.12.2016 ".

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; heresy; mainz
The above is an excerpt from a google translation of Kathnet.

Hilger also rejects in other contexts - bsp. With regard to Vatican II, a hermeneutics of the breach, and advocates a hermeneutics of continuity.

1 posted on 12/07/2016 9:29:26 AM PST by ebb tide
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AL vs FC bump


2 posted on 12/07/2016 9:45:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Southern Appalachian. Though I prefer to be called a Redneck.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Would somebody please explain what the post and comment mean?
3 posted on 12/07/2016 10:14:07 AM PST by utahagen
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To: utahagen
Yeah, it IS pretty obscure. The article says that a prelate of the Diocese of Mainz, Peter Hilger, is openly dissenting and dissociating himself from a publication of the Diocese which explicitly sets Amoris Laetitia against Familiaris Consortio.

A "prelate" is, as I understand it, not exactly an Auxiliary Bishop, but nevertheless a high-up cleric in the Cathedral Chapter. Call him a Sub-auxiliary.

"Amoris Laetitia" (AL) is Pope Francis' 2016 Apostolic Exhortation on the Family, which is giving everybody bleeding ulcers because --- by ambiguity and obscurity and head-scratcher footnotes and glaring omissions and wink-wink-nod-nod--- it undermines the entire coherent edifice of Catholic understanding of Sacraments (esp. Penance, Communion and Matrimony) and Commandments (esp. the 6th and 9th) and the whole idea of an eternal Moral Law from God which is actually binding upon our consciences.

"Familiaris Consortio" (FC) is Pope Saint John Paul II's 1981 Apostolic Exhortation on the Family, which has key sections which are directly contradicted by AL.

The problem is, that if Pope Francis ever admitted that AL directly contradicts FC (and, let's face it, contradicts the whole papal magisterium previous to himself) --- it becomes apparent that AL cannot be legitimate. It cannot be Catholic doctrine. It must either be heresy, or a pile of --- stuff --- that, by its carefully-crafted ambiguity, leads to foreseeable heretical conclusions.

Now, in normal times, there would be no reason for American Catholics to get all in a kerfuffle about the chancery politics in Mainz, Germany. But these are not normal times. And it seems significant that a major European diocese is pushing a publication that unblushingly says "Yeah, Pope Francis is throwing Pope John Paul II's teachings in the trashcan, and we think that's Wunderbar!" Also significant that at least one of the canons / prelates in the Diocese feels conscience-bound to say "Whoa! Stop! I'm getting off this bus."

It's a disturbing but good sign. The masks are coming off. The battle lines have been drawn. And eventually everybody has to declare themselves for one side or the other.

4 posted on 12/07/2016 11:13:52 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." 1 Cor 14:33)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yoo-hoo! Want to come over here?


5 posted on 12/07/2016 11:19:18 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." 1 Cor 14:33)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I appreciate it very much.


6 posted on 12/07/2016 12:21:10 PM PST by utahagen
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To: utahagen

You are quite welcome!


7 posted on 12/07/2016 1:00:19 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you DO read it, you're misinformed. - Twain)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

AL also holds the distinction among Papal documents of containing LIES—in the form of truncated quotations from previous documents. There’s a truncated quotation from Gaudium et Spes, and one from Familiaris Consortio.

All of this is from memory, and so is subject to correction at any time.


8 posted on 12/07/2016 1:36:45 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Some Monsignors are, or were, called “prelates.” Bergoglio abolished the three types of Monsignors. And practically abolished Monsignors entirely, by making it impossible to create one before the age of 65.

Of course, in many countries, bishops are addressed as “Monsignor.” But that’s something else.


9 posted on 12/07/2016 1:39:06 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thanks, Arthur.


10 posted on 12/07/2016 2:43:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Cast all your cares on the Lord, because He cares for you." - 1 Peter 5:7)
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