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To: ebb tide

It’s insulting for any clergy, Protestant OR Catholic to talk like this.

The Reformation happened for actual reasons, and to suggest that it was simply some accident in history renders the actually issues at hand to mere trivia.

Obviously YMMV on what was right and what was wrong, but to suggest that the past 500 years of history is all because of a “misunderstanding” is asinine. Especially considering the amount of lives lost.


3 posted on 10/25/2016 9:11:12 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

That is a good post. Are you familiar with the radid/radically leftist MIT linguist, Noam Chomsky? He plays a nasty little trick in similar situations. Nanely, in cases where he disagrees, he’ll argue that it’s all a matter of linguistics. In cases where he’s emotionally invested, he’ll paint his opponents as subhuman devils.

Example. Chompsky doesn’t believe in God. Therefore, any discussion about the existence of God is all semantics. I.e.: according to Chomsky, a Christian and an atheist could/would harmoniously agree on this subject, if only the ‘word,’ “God,” were properly defined. [This is just Chompsky’s way of sticking it to Christians.]

Otoh, being a fire-breathing, radical’s radical re the environment, Chomsky views anyone not on the hyper-ultra-uber Green bandwagon as of the devil. (Or would, if he believed in the devil.)

Anyway, that’s the thought I had when I read your post. Take it fwiw.


6 posted on 10/25/2016 9:31:36 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Shadow44; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
The consensus of the 1999 document on justification stated, if I’ve understood it correctly, that the reasons for the Catholics condemning the Protestant positions and vice-versa no longer hold, and if ever each Church did hold the position that the other said they did, what is now true is that neither Church no longer holds that position. In other words, the Reformation was all a big misunderstanding! [ English Catholic bishop William Kenney] - https://cruxnow.com/interviews/2016/10/21/pope-sweden-break-ground-inter-communion-bishop-says/

It’s insulting for any clergy, Protestant OR Catholic to talk like this. The Reformation happened for actual reasons, and to suggest that it was simply some accident in history renders the actually issues at hand to mere trivia. Obviously YMMV on what was right and what was wrong, but to suggest that the past 500 years of history is all because of a “misunderstanding” is asinine. Especially considering the amount of lives lost.

Indeed, yet,

The document was approved by Rome, which binds Catholics whether they like it or not; the Lutherans are made up of about 100 churches, and there were about 37 who didn’t, back then, sign up to it. Some have come into line since.

13 posted on 10/28/2016 4:20:59 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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