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To: who_would_fardels_bear

your definition of “orthodox” is too broad and includes those who think they are holier than the pope.


9 posted on 09/09/2016 3:14:23 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns, and kneeling at the feet of Mary)
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To: RBStealth
It's not my definition.

How am I supposed to decide what is now the correct Catholic position? Good arguments are made by all of the Catholic "sects" to support their particular view of current Church teaching as it relates to what was taught before Vatican II.

Francis has now gone too far by the standards of most "orthodox" Catholics, even those who still believe it is wrong to openly criticize him. So are some Catholics wrong in suggesting that the nonsense began sooner than Francis? That maybe it started with John XXIII and Vatican II?

I'm still on the fence, but I find it very unnerving that there is very little unity within the Church right now, even among those who all consider themselves to be in line with the Magisterium.

10 posted on 09/09/2016 3:26:08 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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