[who_would_fardels_bear]

Your certainty of your own position does not make it right.

And don't spout the typical BS that it isn't your position, but the constant position of the Magisterium of the one true Holy and Apostolic Church.

Vatican II caused a massive upheaval in the Church. There are many different responses to it which contradict one another. Your particular take is just one of many.

This is a very unfortunate situation that is similar to what happened when the Eastern Church broke away from Rome, and what happened during the Reformation.

[RBStealth]

Your certainty of your own position does not make it right.

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God is light, the truth and the way, and with your statements you are confused on the truth.

I am a very unconfused Catholic, supplemented by daily prayer, daily rosary, reading the bible twice a day, and a home Catholic library.

There exists a spectrum of Catholicism nowadays(the whole spectrum is not truth) but the middle would contain the truth with the accentuated ends falling further and further away from truth(having less truth). Those on the ends are no more truthful than is Protestanism, except that they both contain quite a bit of truth.

[piusv]

Vatican II caused a massive upheaval in the Church.

Sure did. Some recognize it and try to make sense of it. Others remain in denial and/or ignorance.

[piusv]

Vatican II caused a massive upheaval in the Church. There are many different responses to it which contradict one another.

I would add one more thing to this. Although there are different responses to Vatican II, the one thing that all responses to Vatican II have in common is that Vatican II contradicts the Magisterium that came before it. Of course, I am not including the "I prefer the TLM better" group that still thinks Vatican II teaches the Catholic Faith whole and entire.