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To: marshmallow

“give a peaceful hermeneutic to these passages”

Nah, they should just give it a non-violent interpretation.


4 posted on 08/12/2016 7:41:09 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: JPJones

Islam would benefit from contextualization, just as Christians have said the death sentences for homosexuals and adulterers in Leviticus are for then and there not here and how.
There are several impediments to this in Islam:
* The Koran says it is perfect and absolute, and those who undermine its message face a death penalty. So reformers risk their lives per the fundamentalist version of the faith.
* Islam was early tolerant faith that morphed into a violent one. For example, early verses said don’t come to mosque drunk, get along with fellow monotheists, pray toward Jerusalem. Then Mohamed was rejected as a messiah by the Jews and turned against everyone but fellow Muslims, hatred of them, calls to kill them. You get the later verses that say pray to Mecca, don’t drink alcohol ever, death to the infidel. The later verses override the earlier ones, and the Koran has sections explaining this - that it was showing you the way. This explanation and schema prohibits using the peaceful verses as the “true” Islam.
* Mohamed is held up as the perfect man. His last words were to call for killing Jews. He led war parties to kill all the Jewish men in villages, taking women and children as slaves. When the man held up as the perfect example to emulate led wars of religious conquest and took sex slaves, it is another impediment to peace with the ideology.


17 posted on 08/12/2016 7:58:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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