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1 posted on 07/11/2016 8:47:23 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

how the heck has the church been infiltrated with these bozos?
I know a lot of them turned out to be gay. I knew a guy who was planning to go into the seminary whan I was barely out of high school

He bragged how he had attracted more recruits than the past few years combined, and I remember a very uneasy feeling that they were all guys with no apparent interest in girls... if you catch my drift, and so life with other men seemed more attractive to them - he did not talk about devotion to God or anything, just how many other guys he got to join up with him.

this was nearly 40 years ago.


2 posted on 07/11/2016 8:56:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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Cardinal Nichols wrote to priests reminding them that, “the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, approved by the highest authority in the Church, states in paragraph 299 that ‘The altar should be built apart from the wall, in such a way that it is possible to walk around it easily and that Mass can be celebrated at it facing the people, which is desirable wherever possible.

Untrue. The modernists deliberately mistranslated the GIRM to suggest that mass facing the people is desirable, whenever possible. The phrase "desirable, whenever possible" refers to free-standing altars.

I also find it fascinating that suddenly the Cardinal is a stickler for enforcing the norms found in the GIRM. I wonder if he's also insisting that the Introit, for example, is chanted instead of some sappy hymn.

“But it also ‘reaffirms that the position towards the assembly seems more convenient inasmuch as it makes communication easier’.

To Whom is the priest "communicating" during the canon? Maybe that could help guide what direction he should face.

To be blunt, I can't really get worked up about this as I don't really care what happens in the Novus Ordo. I gave up on it years ago. It's hopeless.

3 posted on 07/11/2016 8:59:46 AM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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LOL at the mistake in the title.

Reporters and writers need to educate themselves before they write about the Catholic Church.


4 posted on 07/11/2016 9:11:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Archbishop of Westminster has told clergy Mass is 'not the time for priests to exercise personal preference or taste'

How can celebrating Mass according to the immemorial tradition of the Church be categorized as "exercising personal preference"? We're not talking about ad libbing parts of the Canon or filling the sanctuary with dancers or balloons. We're talking about celebrating Mass as the Church has always done.

This confirms my opinion of Nichols as a dolt who is hostile to tradition.

6 posted on 07/11/2016 9:42:52 AM PDT by marshmallow
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Look at the understated hauteur in a statement like:
“The priest extends his arms to invite the people to pray”

Doesn’t it imply the people are stupid and must be given dramatic signals as in aerobics class to know to pray? A simple “oremus” could not possibly touch their feeble minds?

People who are in church are there to pray! They know to pray in a church! They come to pray and want to pray, and will pray regardless of any old man in a rainbow chasuble flapping his arms.


10 posted on 07/11/2016 5:46:57 PM PDT by opus1 (This is all getting rather confusing.)
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