[Arthur McGowan]

If the election of Bergoglio was in reality some kind of horrifying trial balloon, some kind of test by these creatures to see how far things had progressed, I would say it is an un-allayed smash success. They have clearly learned not only that they can elect a bizarre intellectual midget, a thug and a boor, a bully and a fool, but that no one will object in substance to any of it. His ideological fellow travelers will cheer, and the “privately orthodox” will keep their heads down until they are replaced with more fellow travelers. And at the next Conclave, when they impose a Tagle – every bit the neomodernist Churchwrecker, but with smooth social skills and 20 years younger – they can be confident that they will own whatever is left of the Church indefinitely.

[broken_arrow1]

Is the Pope catholic?

[Dr. Sivana]

I’m with her except the green vegetables and gardening part.

[Ouchthatonehurt]

“T]he great majority of our sacramental marriages are null. Because they say, ‘Yes, for the rest of my life!’ but they don’t know what they are saying. . . . They say it, they have good will, but they don’t know.”

We have been redeemed by our ignorance.
Does this perhaps apply to Pope’s as well?

[Travis McGee]

[montag813]

Francis is a despicable enemy of the church. I hope he dies in his sleep tonight.

[ClearCase_guy]

If sedevacantism was a stock, I’d buy it because it’s think it’s going to increase a lot.

[piusv]

Sedevacantism is an easy, lazy path

I am so sick of the ignoramuses. They are either ignorant or bad-willed. I am slowly coming to believe that most of them are of the latter.

[heterosupremacist]

“... declaring Bergoglio to be an antipope won’t change any of that.”

I agree. So, I think it is time to stop propagating the sedevacanist slander. God is NEVER going to let the even the ‘gates of hell’ prevail against Holy Mother Church.

I am sometimes uncomfortable with Francis, and I do understand people’s concerns. That being said; in my mind Emeritus Benedict XVI is beyond reproach, and I resent the implications implied in the article.

Dominus vobiscum...

[piusv]

Just to be clear, Ann has specifically repudiated any claim to be speaking authoritatively, quite in contrast to the sedes

Yup. Bad-willed. He has been at this long enough to know that what he wrote is false. Most sedes do not proclaim sedevacantism as dogma. Most sedes take their position as an opinion ..albeit the true opinion (we can't both be right).

And his whining about being called non-Catholic? Waaah. Puhleese. I see sedes get that WAY more often than non-sedes especially from those pesky 'dogmatic' sedeplenists (ie. SSPX/R&R followers).

[marron]

Is the current pope a Christian? Is he in fact possessed of the Holy Spirit? Because if he is not then he is certainly illegitimate, no matter how he came to be in office.

The substitution of Benedict certainly looks and smells like a coup d’état.

How can you know? Guided by scripture and right reason and the workings of the Holy Spirit, you already know. How do you get through it? Guided by scripture, and right reason, and the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Pray and look for God to move. Prepare to move as he says “move”. Bergoglio isn’t the Church. The Church is the Church. Christ is the head of the church.

[Buttons12]

The Maid of Lone Tree isn’t everyone’s favorite comrade-in-arms. She can be prickly and contrary. Had she lived in the time of Christ, even Jesus would have rolled His eyes over some of her comments.
Still, I like her. She can smell sulphur at a thousand miles, and she’s fearless as a badger.

[Jim Noble]

What about a resignation prompted by “grave fear” that is NOT “inflicted unjustly”?

[Mmmike]

Here is the Catholic Encyclopedia's list of antipopes. If the writer is correct, this list must ultimately derive from definitive teachings of one or more subsequent popes. How can this be verified?

[BlatherNaut]

As painful as it might be, the only legitimate conclusion for now is to acknowledge the seriousness of what is happening, to admit that things are in an apocalyptic state and to carry on presenting the Faith in opposition to what Francis and his friends are doing. We’re just soldiers and our task is not the same as that of the generals. It is to maintain the Faith ourselves, including living a full sacramental life, to intensify our dedication to prayer and penances and to have sure supernatural hope that, whatever is happening, God – who has not abandoned us – wants to sort it out for the best, and will do so.

In short, simply adhere to the Deposit of Faith. Disregard the perverse opinions of Francis, et al. Detour around the unholy stench arising from their swamp of delusion. When they open their foolish mouths, hit the "ignore" button. Whether ecclesial office holders are saints, or fools, or scoundrels or heretics is irrelevant to the Truth transmitted to us by Christ.

[BlatherNaut]

As painful as it might be, the only legitimate conclusion for now is to acknowledge the seriousness of what is happening, to admit that things are in an apocalyptic state and to carry on presenting the Faith in opposition to what Francis and his friends are doing. We’re just soldiers and our task is not the same as that of the generals. It is to maintain the Faith ourselves, including living a full sacramental life, to intensify our dedication to prayer and penances and to have sure supernatural hope that, whatever is happening, God – who has not abandoned us – wants to sort it out for the best, and will do so.

In short, simply adhere to the Deposit of Faith. Disregard the perverse opinions of Francis, et al. Detour around the unholy stench arising from their swamp of delusion. When they open their foolish mouths, hit the "ignore" button. Whether ecclesial office holders are saints, or fools, or scoundrels or heretics is irrelevant to the Truth transmitted to us by Christ.

[SGNA]

Novus Ordo Watch's rebuttal to this dangerous inanity:

Comedy Hour at The Remnant: “Francis is the Pope Until the Pope Says He’s Not”

Peek-a-boo! Is he or isn’t he?

HE IS NOT CATHOLIC, THEREFORE HE IS NOT THE POPE!

Excerpts from Novus Ordo Watch's rebuttal of Hillary White:

"While Miss White clearly does not mean to be a Francis apologist, she is one de facto, simply by defending his claim to being the Pope of the Catholic Church. It is this idea that gives him all the legitimacy he needs to destroy souls on a massive scale. It does not matter how much she may “resist” this or that from Francis — the fact alone that she proclaims from the housetops and tells others that this man is the head of the Catholic Church inflicts incalculable damage to souls wherever her voice reaches, because unlike the people at The Remnant, most people in the world, no matter their religion, still understand that if Francis is the Pope of the Catholic Church, then his religion is necessarily the Catholic religion — fancy blog posts from journalists and slyly-argued articles from retired lawyers notwithstanding. All those who vociferously defend Francis’ claim to the Papacy in public ought to be aware that, regardless of their intentions, they will one day have to answer for the damage they have caused in all the souls their writings have reached."

"There is only one way to defeat Francis: You must proclaim from the housetops that he is not the Pope of the Catholic Church. If enough people do it, he is effectively deprived of that which alone gives him all his putative authority: the public’s belief that this man holds the highest office in the Catholic Church. Take that away from him, and he is finished. In the real Catholic Church, Jorge Bergoglio would not even be in a charge of a broom closet. It is time people realized that."