Posted on 06/21/2016 2:53:18 PM PDT by ebb tide
It is earth-shattering for a pope to mix-up a two-faced devil with Jesus. It happened last Thursday when Bergoglio mistakenly referred to a column capital on Vézelay Cathedral: a “case of mistaken identity” emblematic of this pontificate, even if a somewhat superficial ghost-writer was probably to blame.
It is, on the other hand, in his own style to mix them up (Jesus and the devil) by proposing that Judas had been saved (without repenting) thus giving the impression he hadn’t ended up in hell...
It’s difficult to know whether this Pope believes in hell or not – but listening to him – it seems that the only ones going there are those who are against mass immigration, who use air-conditioners or plastic glasses and Christians who follow the Gospel to the letter.
In any case, in that same discourse last Thursday evening at the Church Conference in Rome,
Bergoglio didn’t limit his comments to the nonsense about the capital in Vézelay.
He strung together a series of inconceivable other “pearls” reaching the limits of blasphemy: Jesus in the episode with the adulteress “plays the fool a bit ” (a shocking phrase which the Vatican site changed to “pretended not to understand” , but we have the recording...) and then Jesus, in the same episode when the woman was saved from being stoned – “was scant on morality” (ha mancato verso la morale) (this also textual). Then Jesus was not “a clean one” (“un pulito” ) he actually used this expression, who knows what he was suggesting (better not even ask ).
Then finally, Bergoglio even affirmed that “a great majority of our sacramental marriages are null” (constraining Padre Lombardi to explain why the text on the Vatican site was corrected to: “a portion of our marriages”.
And to complete his performance the same Bishop of Rome – added to this reckless and devastating assertion that , on the other hand, many “cohabitations “ are “real marriages” (de facto legitimizing cohabitations, after delegitimizing real, solid sacramental marriages).
This naturally for secular public opinion is only curious and even amusing, like a car demolition show, but from a Catholic point of view it is devastating; it’s a sort of scourge that has fallen upon the Church and risks destroying Her.
BEYOND LIMITS
So much so, that Robert Spaemann, one of the foremost German Catholic theologians and philosophers, and Benedict XVI’s personal friend, was back thundering again on Friday, in “Die Tagespost” with an article carrying the eloquent headline: “Even in the Church there is a limit to what is bearable”.
Here are some of his remarks:
“[...]some of the Holy Father’s affirmations are in clear contradiction to the words of Jesus, those of the Apostles and the traditional doctrine of the Church. [...]If, in the meantime, the Prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is seen openly accusing the Pope’s closest advisor and ghost-writer of heresy, it means that the situation has indeed gone too far. Even in the Catholic Church there is a limit to what is bearable.”
Spaemann also criticised Bergoglio’s habitual ambiguity on certain themes touched upon in Amoris laetitia where – in order not to be caught in manifest heresy – he says and doesn’t say, he alludes, but doesn’t explain, he throws hand grenades furtively. *
Here is more from Spaemann:
“[...]Pope Francis is not very fond of unequivocal clarity. A short time ago when he declared that Christianity has no “ultimatums” it evidently doesn’t disturb him at all that Christ says: “But let your speech be yea, yea, no, no: and that which is over and above comes from the evil one.” (Matt. 5, 37). Paul’s letters are full of “ultimatums” And, ultimately, “He that is not with me, is against me!”(Matt. 12, 30).”
Spaemann had already intervened on April 29th against Bergoglio’s “Amoris laetitia”, explaining that there are” “decisive sentences which change substantially the teachings of the Church” [...] “That an issue of a breach emerges doubtlessly for every thinking person, who knows the respective texts.[...] “If the Pope is not ready to make corrections, it remains reserved for a later Pope to make things right officially.”
Another important Catholic philosopher, Josef Seifert, collaborator with both John Paul II and Benedict XVI, recently intervened with harsh criticisms, which he justified in this way:
“The Pope is not infallible if he doesn’t speak ex-cathedra. True Popes (like Formosus and Honorius) were condemned for heresy. And it is our holy duty – for love and mercy’s sake towards many souls – to criticize our bishops and even our dear Pope, if they deviate from the truth and if their errors are damaging the Church and souls.”
Moreover, added to the nonsense of Bergoglio’s magisterial teaching are his decisions in the governing of the Church now of a South American accent .
DICTATORSHIP
For example, Bergoglio has drawn up a series of measures which subtract prerogatives from bishops and subject them to a sort of ‘Damocles sword’, with the risk of removal if they don’t adapt themselves to the Bergoglian ‘word’.
In fact, after the two Synods, in which the opposition by bishops and cardinals to the “Bergoglian revolution” was vast and decisive,in the ecclesiastical world now everyone has been intimidated into silence.
So much so that Monsignor Athanasius Schneider, Bishop in Kazakhstan (where they remember well what tyranny is) declared:
“When we arrive at a point in the Church where the faithful, priests and bishops are afraid to say something, as in a dictatorship, this is not the Church.”
Nevertheless, among lay Catholics there are more and more troubled voices being raised. Most of all in the United States.
Yesterday, for instance, Phil Lawler, from Catholic Culture, commenting on the papal discourse of last Thursday, published a harsh comment entitled: The Damage done ( again) by the Pope’s Declarations on Marriage”, wherein he brings to light other “pearls” from that intervention.
PERSECUTION
As regards some pastoral questions, one is struck by the insensibility of this papacy to the tragedy of persecuted Christians, and, by contrast, his approval of questionable regimes and even inhuman dictatorships, which continue to persecute and imprison Christians.
The most glaring case - along with the Islamic regimes – is China.
Indeed , a cause for scandal was Bergoglio’s interview on February 2nd to “Asia Times”, in which he was completely silent about the enormous problems of human rights and religious freedom in China (where there are still bishops like Monsignor Su Zhimin in lagers), but in that interview, addressed to the Communist tyrants in Peking, Bergoglio pronounced “ wildly absolutist words of the past, present and future of China” forgetting “the millions and millions of victims that the Pope never names, not even covertly” (Magister).**
“What disturbs many Chinese Catholics” Sandro Magister writes “is the silence the Vatican authorities maintain on bishops being deprived of their freedom.”
Then, over the last few days the case of the Bishop of Shangai, Ma Daquin, has caused quite a sensation. The Bishop after four years of forced residence – signed a self-incrimination, typical of Stalinist times or the Maoist cultural revolution, in which he sustains he had been in error and makes an apology to the Patriotic Association which is the Church of the Chinese Communist regime.
However, there is more. Father Bernardo Cervellera, one of the most-informed experts on the Chinese Church , on his site “Asia News” (even if he is a Bergoglian) for the sake of truth had to report: “A Chinese Bishop fears that someone in the Vatican had piloted Monsignor Ma Daqin’s ‘confession’ in order to please the Chinese Government.”
For certain there are millions of Chinese Christians, heroically living their faith under persecution who have been profoundly disappointed, confused and grieved for this about-turn. But Rome has also become that over the last three years.
A Rome where you hear inconceivable, resonant words about the Son of God, like those pronounced last Thursday in St. John Lateran’s Basilica by Jorge Mario Bergoglio.
*’tira il sasso e nasconde la mano’, is an idiomatic expression which implies someone who likes to provoke and then denies responsibility of the repercussions on others, enjoys confusing others.
I thought the Pope had to at least like the holy trinity.
I must have been wrong. Because people don’t seem to really let it sink in: What the pope says IS reality. And this pope is our pope, and his church is our church and his word is pretty official.
But all I hear about is how he doesn’t like me, us, Jesus or the bible. What gives ? Is this real ?
It says a lot that even the most DIE-HARD Marians are starting to question this pope.
Biting my tongue.
Hard.
I feel TERRIBLE saying that “he’s not MY pope” because he is.
I’m not going to state that because I don’t like something, that it’s not real to me. There is lots of “prophecy” (type stuff) that states he is the last pope - but while I’m interested in prophesy, the bible overrules it.
I am saddened by the demise of Christ in my lifetime. I wish I didn’t have to witness this. But my wishes don’t become canon no matter how hard I pray.
“Biting my tongue.Hard.”
So we have a pope who doesn’t seem to like the Bible that much, Supreme Court justices who don’t seem to like our constitution that much, men and women just declaring that they aren’t men or women and a world full of people who think this is the right direction.
I think we need a massive freepathon to build a spaceship.
Demise of Christ? No, don’t think so. It is the demise of the Catholic Church pushed by the current leadership, and the current leadership will stand before the Judgement Throne and it ain’t gonna be pretty. It will be Christ sitting on that Judgement Throne.
So I’m a Southern Baptist allegedly with no dog in this fight. Still, I do not want to see another church gone flying the abomination rainbow flag of apostasy and rebellion, like ELCA, UCC, PCUSA, the Episcopalians. Yet the Bible says that in the end times there will be a falling away.
Get on your knees and pray without ceasing.
Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 that a great “falling away” from the faith would precede Jesus’s return.
We’re very close IMHO. Just look at 2 Timothy 3:1-5.
We’re living among folks just as described.
Now more than ever is the time to focus on Christ.
Christ is about to catastrophically intercede into this world unlike any time since Noah’s flood.
The Southern Baptist Convention seems to have given way to Universalism as well with the latest news coming that some “tithes” are going towards building Mosques - right here in America.
Getting on our knees for Christ is about the best place we can be at this moment.
Try these links:
Read your church history. There have been anti-popes before.
“I am saddened by the demise of Christ in my lifetime.”
Oh my friends don’t be saddened! Every step this world takes away from Christ means we are one step closer to going home to be with Him, Glory to God through Jesus Christ.
Luke 21:28 King James Version (KJV)
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
All he needs is to couple his righteousness indignation at these blasphemies with the warnings of Our Lady of Fatima in his book, The Fourth Secret.
If Sandro Magister would also gather some strength, they could be a formindable duo.
The destruction is all too real but if it is of any comfort to you, no he is not the pope, nor were any of the other heretics since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958. They did a bait and switch at Vatican-2 and what they currently run is a hollowed-out apostate shell. The true Roman Catholic Church is all the baptized who hold the Faith whole and entire. That is the distinction and that will not defect from Christ although the numbers have been indeed greatly diminished.
Luke 18 : 7-8
[7] And will not God revenge his elect who cry to him day and night: and will he have patience in their regard? [8] I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?
Excerpt:
CUM EX APOSTOLATUS OFFICIO - APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL IV, 15TH FEBUARY 1559 - (ROMAN BULLARIUM VOL. IV. SEC. I, PP. 354-357)
6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-]
that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or fallen into some heresy:
(i) the promotion or elevation, even if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;
This “pope” ain’t clever enough by half to destroy the church Christ founded. In my opinion he is an anti-pope, and he certainly isn’t the first. He’s evil, and it shows, just as there are others in the church who are evil and work for their father, the father of lies.
But the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!
Just in case you haven’t read this
http://www.dici.org/en/documents/bishop-alfonso-de-galarreta-ordinations-sermon-winona-june-3-2016/
The Pope loves Jesus like Obama loves America.
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