Posted on 06/13/2016 7:01:00 AM PDT by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
In part, to fulfill Isaiah 53:12: “He ... was numbered with the transgressors”
Isaiah 53 (NASB)
The Suffering Servant
1 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2
For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3
He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4
Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6
All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7
He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8
By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9
His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10
But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11
As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12
Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
I think the most important reason, and it’s mentioned in the article- is because it is used as a symbolic representation of the two roads to travel: Aceept Jesus and live, reject him and die. One man realized who He was, and the other mocked him. They represent the two families- the family of God and the children of Satan. That’s my take, at least.
It was prophesied to be so...............
Christ didn’t die on a Friday. He died at even on the day of preparation for the high sabbath known as the Passover. It was NOT the weekly sabbath (Friday). Friday crucifixion is a Catholic false teaching.
Jesus was three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, just as Noah was in the belly of whale/great fish— Matthew 12:40.
I agree, but I really do like the line “The good thief was willing to endure the cross to go up to paradise.” That is powerful.
uummm, that would be Jonah (you knew that)
In Isaiah it says that he would be numbered among the transgressors....it fulfilled prophesy.
The physician doesn’t need to treat the healthy.
#1 It was on a Friday.
#2 If you knew what a high Sabbath was, you wouldn't be in error like you are.
#3 It is not a false teaching, it is correct teaching.
#4 It is not just a Catholic teaching. I am not Catholic and I know when the crucifixion was.
There is a bit of a problem with the narrative for the Wednesday crucifixion theory, especially in the book of Luke. The women saw the tomb, went home and started preparing spices, rested on the Sabbath, bought more spices after sundown on Saturday, and went to the tomb early on Sunday to begin preparing the body at the first available moment of non-Sabbath daylight. If the Sabbath in question was a special Sabbath on a Thursday, they would have gone to prepare the body at first light of the first non-Sabbath day, which was Friday.
Another problem for the Wednesday crucifixion theory is the interchangeable use of “three days and three nights” and “the third day.” Maybe you could make the case that the resurrection at exactly sundown at the intersection of Saturday and Sunday could be the third day, but on the road to Emmaus the disciples talked about the crucifixion and said that “it is the third day since all this took place.” If he was crucified on Wednesday, there is no way that nearly evening on Sunday is still the third day.
Attempts to make it simply a matter of an error in the Gregorian calendar understate the issues with said calendar - it’s so messed up that we can’t even agree on a year, let alone a day. The “three days and three nights” as an idiom is the best explanation.
I agree. Like the two thieves, we all have a choice. We can choose to accept Him, or we can choose the reject Him.
I also assumed you knew the weekly Sabbath was Saturday (and I read right past the Noah/Jonah thing - it's amazing how common that slip is.)
It is unlikely that he would be crucified between two who had not been found guilty of some offense. That was the capital punishment of the day, and thievery was common.
I have studied your point, and it is verily arguable.
And I know you meant Johah.
I believe Christ crucified on Thursday is more likely than Wednesday, but I also believe that the Friday teaching is no false teaching.
2 Tim 2:14 comes to mind as I believe the devil likes us to argue over this.
Please do not hijack the thread to another subject.
Optics?
Bmk
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