Geneva Bible with Reformer's notes. Advice please.

4/25/2016 | Psalm 144

[Salvation]

Why not get the entire Bible instead of just part of it?

[LadyDoc]

Try ccel.org or achive.org

Both have a lot of free resoutces.

[Psalm 144]

Thank you. That has the content I am looking for. I will look for a bound version but that is exactly what I have been trying to track down.

[Psalm 144]

Thank you. I’m pretty sure I have something like that in storage, and unfortunately not readily accessible right now. I enjoy Sproul, but I’m looking for more direct commentary than restatements, and looking at some specific side issues. Tracking some leaves in the forest, so to speak.

[Psalm 144]

“I think that what Sproul means is that it attempts to adhere to the Reformed tradition of Calvin, Beza, Farel, and Knox. I do not believe that it is the Geneva Bible translation nor does it include the original notes.”

I think you are correct, thus my search. I did download a Geneva with notes to my kindle, but the formatting makes it almost impossible to read for any clarity.

[Psalm 144]

Thanks! Great link.

[Psalm 144]

Definitely the background I am searching. Thanks for that link.

[Psalm 144]

I realize it’s not the same....
....just offering an option

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And I thank you for it! Definitely a good starting point and overview, but this is a footnote and marginalia safari.

;-)

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

Just a side note: Most of the 1599 Geneva Bibles were printed after 1599. King James outlawed the Geneva Bible to encourage the use of the King James Version. The Geneva Bible was still wildly popular, though, and continued to be printed. The printer would simply put the false date “1599” on it to make it seem legal.

Second side note: I collect old documents and such. You can often get a single page from an original Geneva Bible from the late 1500’s on eBay for $5 or less.

Oh, well, another side note or two: The Geneva Bible was popular in part because it was inexpensive. It was usually printed in a smaller format than the Bishops’ Bible and other versions, making it less expensive. It also usually did not use the scarcely readable old Gothic print that earlier versions did. It also was the first version to number the verses and to put the verses in separate paragraphs. Plus, its maps, tables, charts, woodcut illustrations, and comments made it the forerunner of our modern study Bibles. Plus its primary competitor (before the KJV) was the Bishops’ Bible, which used a rather stilted and awkward language and style.

Neither the church in England nor the English king approved of the Geneva Bible. The church objected to its Calvinist influence in the comments, and the king objected to its seeming advocacy for more democratic forms of government, both in the church and in the nation.

[Psalm 144]

“How about picking up an authentic unannotated bible like the Latin Vulgate or the prior Africanus or Vaticanus to see what was originally written 1000 years before the “reformers” got their paws on it?”

Because my Latin is pretty much limited to ‘caveat emptor’, ‘Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?’ and ‘Deus vult’.

[Psalm 144]

Yes, the Tolle Lege Press kept coming up in my searches too. I’m going to call them tomorrow.

[Psalm 144]

Thanks!

[Psalm 144]

Thanks for the heads up on that.

[Psalm 144]

Very interesting notes, Engraved-on-His-hands! And yes, I am looking for this for the very reasons the Crown sought to discourage it. I’m wanting to read through a Calvinist lens, on some specific issues.

I’m amazed that pages from the originals are so readily available.

[the_Watchman]

If you are looking for Calvin’s views, be aware that Calvin wrote commentaries on each book of the Bible except Revelation.

Most of them are available online at ccel.org

http://www.ccel.org/index/author/C

[Gamecock]

You do know that the Geneva Bible had the Apocrypha included, right?

[Lee N. Field]

Can anyone recommend a particular publisher and version of the Geneva Bible which will contain the Reformers' notes? I want to get some feel for the Reformers' ideas on the relationship, limits, and obligations between the Christian citizen and the State. Thanks in advance!

There have been facimiles produced. This here might interest you: Poor Man’s Geneva Bible – Rebound by Leonard’s Book Restoration.

Current editions in modern typeface, such as Tolle Lege Press', I'm not interested in.

The Geneva notes are a g00gle search away.

[Lee N. Field]

If you are looking for Calvin’s views, be aware that Calvin wrote commentaries on each book of the Bible except Revelation.

John's Apocalypse, 2 and 3 John, Song of Solomon, and half of Ezekiel, are what he did not do or finish. IIRC.

[Lee N. Field]

The Geneva Bible is just about the only English Bible I don’t have a copy yet. One of these days. . .

I pick up obscure bibles when I see them. I bet I've got some you don't.

For instance, the only copy I have ever seen of the English Revised Version (predecessor of the American Standard Version), is the copy I have. Which copy is a diglot, English on facing pages with the Wescott and Hort Greek text. Alas, the paper is quite fragile now -- this is nothing I would want to use.

[vladimir998]

“For instance, the only copy I have ever seen of the English Revised Version (predecessor of the American Standard Version), is the copy I have.”

There are two others still available (albeit not in the best format):

1) http://evangelicalbible.com/product/cambridge-kjv-rv-interlinear-black-calfskin/

2) http://www.crimondhouse.com/

The Crimond House one is better in my view because its marginal RV text is easier on the eyes than the interlinear Cambridge. Here’s a nice review of the Crimond House version: http://markdryden.blogspot.com/2013/01/my-new-acquisition-two-version-bible.html

I have a copy of the Monser’s ASV based The Cross-Reference Bible which is a fantastic resource. It’s available online too: https://archive.org/details/crossreferencebi00mons

If you want an ASV for reading purposes - something small enough to carry around - there’s nothing better than this one: https://starbible.com/american-standard-version-teachers-edition

“Alas, the paper is quite fragile now — this is nothing I would want to use.”

I understand. I’m glad that more people are republishing old books - even if it often just facsimile versions - because otherwise so many old books would be lost to us.