Posted on 04/18/2016 7:12:16 PM PDT by Morgana
A Northern Ireland Presbyterian minister is creating waves after she began advocating for abortion against the churchs teachings.
The Rev. Lesley Carroll, who is running for election in the Irish Assembly, recently waded into the abortion debate when she gave a public statement to the pro-abortion Belfast Feminist Network, according to the News Letter.
Abortion is illegal in Northern Ireland, but abortion activists are pushing to change that. The Presbyterian Church in Ireland has vocally opposed changes to the law, saying it protect[s] both the life of the mother and the unborn child, according to the news outlet.
However, Carroll told the feminist group that she believes the laws should be changed to allow abortion in certain cases. Later, in an interview with the News Letter, Carroll said she believes abortion should be a womans choice.
So this for me is a matter of compassion, to allow mothers, in particular, to make that decision for themselves, Carroll said. I would also want to be very clear that I believe [that there should be] stringent processes in place around that, so for example in the situation of fatal foetal abnormality we need to be absolutely certain that the information that parents receive is of the highest quality so that they are making the decision off the best evidence base that they can.
And the same around the rape and incest issue the window is tight, but to give the proper support, counselling, and time to those women as they come to that decision beyond that, I am not anxious to extend the freedom for abortion or the freedom for choice, but I understand that there might be situations in which it might be at least possible to contemplate that.
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She added that she is not in favor of a blanket extension of abortion.
One day after the newspaper published her interview, Presbyterian Church leaders responded with a public statement that reiterated their pro-life stance.
While it would not be appropriate for us to comment on statements by individual candidates or parties during an election campaign, the position of the Church is very clear on many of the moral issues under debate, the statement read.
The church leaders did not indicate whether Carroll would be disciplined, according to the report.
Carrolls pro-abortion position fits more closely with that of the Presbyterian Church USA. While there are several Presbyterian denominations in the United States, the PCUSA is the largest and most liberal on abortion.
In 2014, the PCUSA General Assembly struck down a resolution to condemn the killing of babies born alive after failed abortions, LifeNews reported. Last spring, one of its Louisiana churches hosted a rally in support of Planned Parenthood, and in 2012 a Presbyterian seminary honored Cecile Richards, president of the abortion giant.
PC Northern Ireland.
He is on the wrong side.
By their fruits you shall know them
Yes we all know about the story where Jesus talked about the compassion of the mother who aborted her children.
I see the basic problem.
Good thing the only kind of heretics that exist these days are AGW heretics.
Yup. A she who looks like a he is always a problem, and definitely should not be in a pulpit.
The chaff and wheat continue to be sorted.
Abortions are killing. What’s wrong with this guy?
Fairly common among pastorettes....
I don’t think it’s a guy.
“She.”
Good luck Leslie at the Pearly Gates.
I don’t let the weirdo stiffs define all Presbyterians for me. It’s not that hard to know who defines the Presbyterians. For any sort of Christian, it ain’t people like this.
Freegards
pcusa is phuqued ! and not just on murdering babies but lots of other stuff like some of the basic theology ... and more
anyone still in PCUSA should seriously really truly look at it carefully and, imho, get the Hello Out! There are several other much better Presby and Christian church alternatives! much much better !
Thus so called “ church” is a den on inequity. Christ does not dwell there.
How’s that non-traditional “evangelical” working out for you now, metmom?
Whether you like it or not, your association with a “community” church ascribes you to a politco-calvinist reformed theology.
From what I’ve read of your beliefs, you might want to look into your local (!non-ELCA!) Lutheran tradition (ELS, WELS, LCMS). These and the RCs are the only tradition that agitated for and have upheld the true meaning of life.
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