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Kasper: Amoris Laetitia “Changes Everything”
One Peter Five ^ | April 15, 2016 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 04/16/2016 5:16:47 PM PDT by ebb tide

Well, Cardinal Kasper certainly seems pleased with the exhortation. It’s almost as though Christmas came early for him:

Cardinal Walter Kasper explained that the Pope’s apostolic exhortation “doesn’t change anything of church doctrine or of canon law – but it changes everything”.

The retired cardinal has been influential on Francis’ thinking on marriage and those living in “irregular situations” and it was he who the Pope asked to address a consistory of cardinals in February 2014 on how communion might be given to divorced and remarried couples.

That address kicked off the Synod of Bishops discussions on the family, a process which lasted over two years and culminated in the publication last Friday of the Pope’s exhortation, titled “Amoris Laetitia” (“The Joy of Love”).

Speaking to The Tablet , the German cardinal said that by putting doctrine in a new prospective the document “overcomes a rigid casuistic approach and gives room for Christian freedom of conscience.”

He explained that by applying the “general vision” of the document there is a possibility of giving remarried divorcees access to the sacraments.

“It seems clear to me as to many other observers, that there can be situations of divorced and remarried where on the way of inclusion, absolution and communion become possible,” he said.

This could happen, he added, “not as a general law or as a general permission but according a spiritual and pastoral discernment judging case by case.”

Speaking more generally about the document, the President Emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity said: “I don’t like to say, ‘this is revolutionary’, because revolutionary sounds like giving up or destroying something by violence, whereas the document is a renewal and an updating of the original holistic Catholic vision.”

Add this to the list of statements from Archbishop Cupich, Cardinal Lehmann, the Phillipines Bishops Conference, and this group of Italian Priests, and we’re well on our way to seeing just how “The Joy of Love” is going to be used to abuse the Church’s sacraments.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francischurch; kasper
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Speaking to The Tablet , the German cardinal said that by putting doctrine in a new prospective the document “overcomes a rigid casuistic approach and gives room for Christian freedom of conscience.”
1 posted on 04/16/2016 5:16:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Salvation; Mrs. Don-o
Ping

“Another thing: yesterday, before sleeping – although not in order to go to sleep! – I read and reread Cardinal Walter Kasper's document and I would like to thank him, as I found it to be a work of profound theology, and also a serene theological reflection. It is pleasant to read serene theology. And I also found what St. Ignacius described as the 'sensus Ecclesiae', love for the Mother Church. ... It did me good, and an idea came to mind – please excuse me, Eminence, if I embarrass you – but my idea was that this is what we call “doing theology on one's knees”. Thank you, thank you”.

2 posted on 04/16/2016 5:19:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
This is directed at Cardinal Kasper, but one single document does not reverse all the documents and thousands of years of traditions which preceded it ....
3 posted on 04/16/2016 5:26:32 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Ken522

One footnote!


4 posted on 04/16/2016 5:30:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Ken522
One footnote!

One drop of cyanide can kill you.

Let alone two totally unnecessary Sinnods, convoked only to skirt the Church teaching on the indissolubility of marriage.

5 posted on 04/16/2016 5:44:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Ken522

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3421678/posts?page=10#10


6 posted on 04/16/2016 5:56:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Leftist heretics stick together. The real pope, the one named B16, would not even talk to the heretic Kaspar. Along comes his lost brother Bergoglio and Kaspar the heretic becomes the most influential cardinal in the world.


7 posted on 04/16/2016 6:15:05 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: ebb tide

One drop of cyanide can kill you —Oh, I don’t deny that. Notorious footnote #351 is the worst example of carefully crafted ambiguity and misdirection I have ever seen in ANY official document, let alone a papal Apostolic Exhortation. If it appeared in a paper written by a 19-year-old seminarian, it would have been X’s out in red by any teacher, with the margin note, “You can’t be serious.” It actually makes me ashamed.


8 posted on 04/16/2016 6:15:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: BlatherNaut

Ping.


9 posted on 04/16/2016 6:23:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

We see what we want to. It is a Rorschach.


10 posted on 04/16/2016 6:55:44 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I hope you also realize how many Catholic prelates, just so far, have focused on that one drop of poison, e.g., Cardinals Kasper and Schonborn, Archbishop Cupich, Cardinal Lehmann, the Spanish Bishops Conference, the Phillipines Bishops Conference, et al. How many more Catholics including divorced and remarried couple do you think will gladly swallow the poison?


11 posted on 04/16/2016 6:56:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

P.S. And Francis has just regenerated focus on his drop of poison in his latest airplane interview (which according to him, is “magisterium”).


12 posted on 04/16/2016 7:02:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation
“There can be nothing more dangerous than those heretics who admit nearly the whole cycle of doctrine, and yet by one word, as with a drop of poison, infect the real and simple faith taught by our Lord and handed down by Apostolic tradition” (Pope Leo XIII: Auctor Tract. de Fide Orthodoxa contra Arianos).

(courtesy of One Peter Five)

13 posted on 04/16/2016 7:50:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Watch this for the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Avd7bCiV0

Very revealing video....everyone needs to watch it.


14 posted on 04/16/2016 7:55:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WriteOn

Ok, that might be the best case scenario. But I can look at other papal documents and know that it isn’t a test, no one would be tested by actually having to decipher something. There would be nother to cleverly parse, it just says what it means and anyone who disagrees is missing it. It seems like lately there is not of that from this cat.

Freegards


15 posted on 04/16/2016 8:04:40 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: DuncanWaring
Speaking to The Tablet , the German cardinal said that by putting doctrine in a new prospective the document “overcomes a rigid casuistic approach and gives room for Christian freedom of conscience.”

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"All would wish to be saved and to enjoy the glory of paradise; but to gain heaven, it is necessary to walk in the straight road that leads to eternal bliss. This road is the observance of the divine commandments. Hence, in his preaching, the Baptist exclaimed: Make straight the way of the Lord."

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Doctor of the Church

16 posted on 04/16/2016 8:26:38 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Salvation

Read this for the truth:

“There can be nothing more dangerous than those heretics who admit nearly the whole cycle of doctrine, and yet by one word, as with a drop of poison, infect the real and simple faith taught by our Lord and handed down by Apostolic tradition” (Pope Leo XIII: Auctor Tract. de Fide Orthodoxa contra Arianos).


17 posted on 04/16/2016 9:24:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; BlatherNaut

“There can be nothing more dangerous than those heretics who admit nearly the whole cycle of doctrine, and yet by one word, as with a drop of poison, infect the real and simple faith taught by our Lord and handed down by Apostolic tradition” (Pope Leo XIII: Auctor Tract. de Fide Orthodoxa contra Arianos).

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St. John Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, speaks of how a pope thus loses office:

This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction… NOT AFTER WARNINGS OR DECLARATION BECAUSE heretics already before being excommunicated are outside the Church and deprived of all jurisdiction. For they have already been condemned by their own sentence, as the Apostle teaches (Tit. 3:10-11), that is, they have been cut off from the body of the Church without excommunication, as St. Jerome affirms…


18 posted on 04/17/2016 3:30:12 AM PDT by Repent and Believe ("...to neglect to confound evil men...is no less a sin than to encourage them." Pope St. Felix III)
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To: Salvation

EWTN for Truth? No just no.


19 posted on 04/17/2016 4:38:36 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Repent and Believe

That’s very true. But the question is how one physically gets him out of the Vatican and makes him stop preaching heresy if there is no formal declaration. It obviously doesn’t bother him in the least, even though he has acknowledged that he has broken with tradition and law.


20 posted on 04/17/2016 4:41:05 AM PDT by livius
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