[xzins]

Does that mean unjust wars are back in play?

[GraceG]

Mr. Pope....

Tear down your walls, put up or shut up you marxist jack-ass

[C19fan]

If these clowns were around centuries ago there would be no Catholic Church left. We would be praying towards Mecca.

[A CA Guy]

Right, so when terrorist take down Vatican walls with bombs and attempt assassination Pope Francis will come out and say capturing terrorist even in that case would be unjust?

[Night Hides Not]

As the proud graduate of a Jesuit university, and with love and admiration for the priests that taught me and befriended me, I have no problem saying:

Pope Francis is the first Jesuit Pope, and he'll be the only Jesuit Pope.

[Mr. Mojo]

So when the Muzzie barbarians are at the Vatican’s gates, we shouldn’t try to drive them off? Ok, Frankie.

[Secret Agent Man]

Nope. Go pound it commie popo.

[Secret Agent Man]

Take the vatican walls down and then talk about stupid crap like this.

[RatRipper]

So much for “give me liberty or give me death”.

The commies want us to roll over and submit to them, just as the Muzzies do. Freedom is worth fighting for . . . some idiots won’t realize it until they no longer have it.

[thorvaldr]

Vatican conference urges complete surrender to Muslim supremacist barbarians.

The title was wrong, so I fixed it.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

[faithhopecharity]

without the teaching about just wars and self-defense, there’d be no Church today

[ebb tide]

Francis issued an opening greeting to the Vatican conference — in and of itself a sign that he endorsed its goals. He didn't mention the "just war" theory, but made clear his position, saying the "ultimate and most deeply worthy goal of human beings and of the human community is the abolition of war."

Depending on what day it is, Francis has a different "ultimate and most deeply worth goal of human beings". On this occasion, it's the "abolition of war", on other days, it's the "abolition of poverty". At no time, that I can recall, has he referred to eternal salvation in God's Kingdom" as an "ultimate goal" of human beings.

[marshmallow]

Remember Lepanto!!

[Intolerant in NJ]

...too often the doctrine had been used to justify and endorse military action rather than prevent it...problem is about the same as we used to have in predicting possible violence when thinking of discharging a patient from the psychiatric hospital - in predicting an outcome you take steps to abort that outcome, so you never quite know whether the prediction was wrong or the action was right - when you endorse military action you're actually acting to stop more severe (and dangerous for your side) action and if you're successful no such more severe action ever takes place.....