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To: FourtySeven; ebb tide
So show me where the dogma of “civil unions between two people of the same sex is forbidden” exists.

Wait, so you're claiming that civil unions of the same sex ..specifically two homosexuals...is not forbidden in Catholic theology?

14 posted on 01/27/2016 12:50:39 PM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: piusv

Technically speaking no it’s not, if you’re talking about two people entering into a “union” for the purposes of financial assistance. That is, if they are doing it to help the other (or each other) basically live, and if without such a union they would literally not be able to live. Obviously homosexual relations are forbidden whether in or outside a legally recognized “union”. It’s the homosexual act that is wrong not the union itself.

Of course such unions are perverted (as marriage is being perverted these days) by two men or two women who are homosexual and are engaging in homosexual sex. But it’s the sexual perversion that’s a sin not the union itself. It’s a sad sorry state that such legal remedies, for poor people, is and has been subjugated and abrogated by the homosexual community to forward their perverted desires. The unions themselves are a great help to poor people in countries like Argentina which is why Francis supported them when he was archbishop there.

He didn’t support them because he has some secret wish to support gay “marriage”. The proof of this is in the many times he’s spoken on the topic and condemned it (gay “marriage”) calling it, among other things “Satanic”. One can’t square such quotes with some secret desire to actually SUPPORT gay “marriage” (or even gay sex) unless one wishes to believe Francis is completely insane or evil. Or both.

Believe what you want. I prefer to believe in reasonable conclusions.


16 posted on 01/28/2016 4:29:44 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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