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To: Marie
We need to stop telling them what *not* to do and give realistic guidance on what *to* do.

I agree wholeheartedly. There is a void out there and it is impossible to enforce a negative.

This book provides a more positive view:

Defending Marriage: Twelve Arguments for Sanity
Anthony Esolen

Thanks also for sharing the economic angle on why young (and not so young) men shy away from commitment. I have a hunch there are men who long for the olden days of courtship, but would rather drop dead before admitting it.

10 posted on 01/16/2016 10:47:15 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

My son is 21. My daughter is 24. So I’m very involved with that cohort.

And it’s no secret.

Just last week, my own son sadly told me how much he wanted to be a father and that he’d happily find a girl, fall in love, and giver her a dozen babies if he could afford it.

I listen to my kids’ friends and try my best to dish out advice. (I am a mama) And I hear their frustration every day.

You know which boys are in *real* trouble?

The ones who don’t have the chops for college, but have the mechanical talent. Our future tradesmen. They should be able to provide by 25, but they can’t. So many in this group join (or try to join) the military.

Our boys have been neutered. Our girls have been reduced to sex objects. Both groups are miserable with the situation, but are totally disheartened and have no idea how to fix it.

They’re muddling along as best as they can and it’s not good enough.


12 posted on 01/16/2016 11:00:20 PM PST by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: thecodont; Marie

You are thinking only unmarried women have abortions but I’m telling you married Christian women have them too! The reasons vary:

Can’t afford another child because..don’t make enough money, husband/wife recently lost a job, house was foreclosed on.

Then there are other reasons like they wanted a boy and the baby is a girl or vice versa. Or maybe the child has birth defects.

Often times they had all the children they wants and this pregnancy was unplanned and they simply don’t want more.

Maybe the couple just got married and are not ready for children, so they have an abortion.

There are also times wife might not be sure who father is because she had an affair, but more often than not it’s the above reasons.

It’s not all unmarried women/girls who “made a mistake”.


13 posted on 01/16/2016 11:08:40 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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