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Catholics asked to thank God for the ‘insights’ of the Reformation
Catholic Herald ^ | 1/15/2016 | Catholic Herald

Posted on 01/15/2016 5:21:56 PM PST by ebb tide

The Catholic and Lutheran Churches have issued a joint prayer thanking God for the "insights" received through the Reformation.

The service has been devised by the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity and the Lutheran World Federation in advance of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation next year.

The first jointly developed liturgical order is based on the report "From Conflict to Communion: Lutheran-Catholic Common Commemoration of the Reformation in 2017".

The Common Prayer, which can be adapted to suit local customs and preferences, is led by two presiders, one Catholic and one Lutheran, with two readers, again one Catholic and one Lutheran. Other ecumenical readers and leaders of intercessory prayer can take part in the service.

One prayer reads: "Thanks be to you O God for the many guiding theological and spiritual insights that we have all received through the Reformation. Thanks be to you for the good transformations and reforms that were set in motion by the Reformation or by struggling with its challenges. Thanks be to you for the proclamation of the gospel that occurred during the Reformation and that since then has strengthened countless people to live lives of faith in Jesus Christ. Amen."

The commemoration in 2017 brings joy and gratitude, the Common Prayer says, and must "also allow room for both Lutherans and Catholics to experience the pain over failures and trespasses, guilt and sin in the persons and events that are being remembered".

The service has readings from the report From Conflict to Communion, including: "In the 16th century, Catholics and Lutherans frequently not only misunderstood but also exaggerated and caricatured their opponents in order to make them look ridiculous. They repeatedly violated the eighth commandment, which prohibits bearing false witness against one's neighbour."

One reading says: "Lutherans and Catholics often focused on what separated them from each other rather than looking for what united them. They accepted that the Gospel was mixed with the political and economic interests of those in power. Their failures resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. Families were torn apart, people imprisoned and tortured, wars fought and religion and faith misused. Human beings suffered and the credibility of the Gospel was undermined with consequences that still impact us today. We deeply regret the evil things that Catholics and Lutherans have mutually done to each other."

The service includes five commitments for Catholics and Lutherans together. "Catholics and Lutherans should always begin from the perspective of unity and not from the point of view of division in order to strengthen what is held in common even though the differences are more easily seen and experienced." They "must let themselves continuously be transformed by the encounter with the other and by the mutual witness of faith" and should "commit themselves to seek visible unity, to elaborate together what this means in concrete steps, and to strive repeatedly toward this goal". And they "should jointly rediscover the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ for our time" and "witness together to the mercy of God in proclamation and service to the world".

Rorate Caeli, the traditionalist site, criticised the Common Prayer, saying it was the "first time that the drive for Catholic-Lutheran union and the glorification of the Reformation has taken a quasi-liturgical shape".


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: francischurch; heretics; indifferentism

Pope Francis is greeted during a meeting with members of the Lutheran World Federation at the Vatican

One prayer reads: "Thanks be to you O God for the many guiding theological and spiritual insights that we have all received through the Reformation. Thanks be to you for the good transformations and reforms that were set in motion by the Reformation or by struggling with its challenges. Thanks be to you for the proclamation of the gospel that occurred during the Reformation and that since then has strengthened countless people to live lives of faith in Jesus Christ. Amen."

1 posted on 01/15/2016 5:21:56 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is one of the Lutheran clergy delegates a woman?


2 posted on 01/15/2016 5:28:28 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight
Is one of the Lutheran clergy delegates a woman?

I don't know. But I would not be surprised if there is one.

Francis Meets With Female Head Of Church Of Sweden, Archbishop Antje Jackelen

3 posted on 01/15/2016 5:40:05 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: CondorFlight

**Is one of the Lutheran clergy delegates a woman?**

Or Captain Kangaroo grandson.


4 posted on 01/15/2016 5:50:23 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Replacing Obama will be an annus mirabilis.)
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To: ThomasThomas
Or Captain Kangaroo grandson.

Or Bergoglio's beloved "theologian", Lancelot Link:


5 posted on 01/15/2016 6:17:06 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Will one of the Catholic participants sell indulgences?


6 posted on 01/15/2016 6:23:11 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: CondorFlight

Is one of the Catholic delegates a bishop who protected pedophile priests from the law - and “protected” the laity from learning that their priest was a molestor


7 posted on 01/15/2016 6:26:00 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: CondorFlight
Is one of the Lutheran clergy delegates a woman?

Kind-a looks like it.

8 posted on 01/15/2016 6:26:12 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("I don't care if there's a billion of you. You're in a cult.")
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To: WilliamIII

Will one of the Lutheran participants “sin joyfully?”


9 posted on 01/15/2016 6:30:50 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ebb tide

Well, it’s about time! (/s)

OK, I’m LCMS, but we don’t want to be a part of this anymore than a small-o orthodox Catholic does. We are to pray that we are one, but not at the expense of the truth, and His Word is truth.


10 posted on 01/15/2016 6:31:06 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Will one of the Lutheran participants “sin joyfully?”

You mean like the Kennedys?


11 posted on 01/15/2016 6:49:59 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

You should be happy that they’ve been following daddy-Luther’s advice.


12 posted on 01/15/2016 6:59:29 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Sorry, the Kennedys are Catholics, not Lutherans


13 posted on 01/15/2016 7:09:20 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

But since they sin joyfully as Luther commanded, they’re well on their way to his camp.


14 posted on 01/15/2016 8:41:48 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

>>>Will one of the Lutheran participants “sin joyfully?”

That’s not what he said. At all.

“If you are a preacher of grace, then preach a true and not a fictitious grace; if grace is true, you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin. God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners. Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly, for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here [in this world] we have to sin. This life is not the dwelling place of righteousness, but, as Peter says, we look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. It is enough that by the riches of God’s glory we have come to know the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world. No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day. Do you think that the purchase price that was paid for the redemption of our sins by so great a Lamb is too small? Pray boldly—you too are a mighty sinner.”

http://ugleyvicar.blogspot.com/2013/05/martin-luthers-sin-boldly-quote-in.html


15 posted on 01/15/2016 8:47:35 PM PST by CraigEsq
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Interesting how the Catholic Church breeds so many smarmy people. Kennedys. Pelosi. Biden. Cuomo. Jerry Brown. You must be so proud.


16 posted on 01/15/2016 11:03:51 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

About as proud as you are of Sherrod Brown, Jesse Ventura, Hooley, Jack Cafferty.


17 posted on 01/16/2016 8:10:01 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: CraigEsq
“If you are a preacher of grace, then preach a true and not a fictitious grace; if grace is true, you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin...

Which more of the the polemical hyperbole of Luther, and not always teaching correct doctrine. One cannot truly believe on the Lord Jesus with Scriptural saving faith if regularly impenitently committing such sins as fornication, even if "boldly" is dismissed as a mere rhetorical device. And which is contrary to other teaching by Luther.

Christ is the priest, all men are spiritual lepers because of unbelief; but when we come to faith in him he touches us With his hand, gives and lays upon us his merit and we become clean and whole without any merit on our part whatever. We are therefore to show our gratitude to him and acknowledge that we have not become pious by our own works, but through his grace, then our course will be right before God..

"This is what I have often said, if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit."

“We must therefore most certainly maintain that where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both.”

“Thus faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works.

"For if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk.”

"...faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit and wholly and completely converts him. It goes to the foundation and there accomplishes a renewal of the entire man; so, if I have previously seen a sinner, I now see in his changed conduct, manner and life, that he believes. So high and great a thing is faith.

.'Such a faith will work in you love for Christ and joy in him, and good works will naturally follow. If they do not, faith is surely not present: for where faith is, there the Holy Ghost is and must work love and good works.”

"For it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good. If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present.

Sources and more.

And Scripture also warns believers, as believers, against having an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God, falling from grace, drawing back into perdition, making Christ of no effect/profit, falling from grace. (Heb. 3:12; 10:38; Gal. 5:1-4) Thus God works to chasten wayward souls to repentance, lest they “be condemned with the rest of the world.” (1Co. 11:32

18 posted on 01/16/2016 12:14:20 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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