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To: rjsimmon

If you read the article, you’ll see that the tradition says that Rachel could have prevented the deception, but she chose to be a co-conspirator instead.


3 posted on 11/20/2015 9:50:53 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Do not grumble, brethren, against one another, that you may not be judged." James 5:9)
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To: Tax-chick

That is all poor speculation. Women folk back then had little say in practically any matter, especially in marriage.


4 posted on 11/20/2015 1:51:01 PM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Tax-chick
I read the article. I find this Talmudic commentary an uninspired and uninspiring fable, to say the least.

�›ז וַיִּגְדְּלוּ, הַנְּעָרִים, וַיְהִי עֵשָׂו אִישׁ יֹדֵעַ צַיִד, אִישׁ שָׂדֶה; וְיַעֲקֹב אִישׁ תָּם, יֹשֵׁב אֹהָלִים. 27 And the boys grew; and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a quiet man, dwelling in tents. And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

Genesis, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verse twenty seven,
Mechon Mamre Hebrew English,
and KJV
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

Normally, the KJV translated "tam" as "perfect" but for some inexplicable reason used "plain" in Jacob's case. In that respect, he was perfect, as were Job and Noah.

6 posted on 11/20/2015 3:30:50 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Tax-chick
I read the article. I find this Talmudic commentary an uninspired and uninspiring fable, to say the least.

And the boys grew; and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a quiet man, dwelling in tents.

And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

Genesis, Catholic chapter twenty five, Protestant verse twenty seven,
Mechon Mamre Hebrew English,
and KJV
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

Normally, the KJV translated "tam" as "perfect" but for some inexplicable reason used "plain" in Jacob's case. In that respect, he was perfect, as were Job and Noah.

8 posted on 11/20/2015 3:34:13 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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