Posted on 11/10/2015 7:49:26 PM PST by markomalley
Amazing...I guess his next move will be to make an "infallible" (note the quote marks) proclamation that the Catholic Church is out of business.
So essentially he just wants to merge the Roman Catholic church with the Universalist Unitarian Church?
Got it.
I have no idea what he means. He keeps talking of reform, yet isn’t changing anything like dogma.
Which is fine by me, I don’t want the Kasper cabal to start ramming through their errors.
Ya’ see, Catholicism is just like a club, where its members can choose to change things to suit themselves whenever they feel like it . . . I mean, that’s like we Americans feel about out Constitution too, don’t we . . . our Constitution and Catholicism are “living” according to the latest fads and stuff . . . ain’t that right?
It is far less useful to search for solutions in the hedonistic society which became Sodom.
I have more respect for Francis the Talking Mule than I do for Pope Francis.
The Duomo of Florence seems an incongruent backdrop for the content of his remarks.
His holy Popistry says the Church has a face which is Jesus with lots of enlivening debate about what is true.
I guess the whole immutable God thing is out.
Pope Francis is living in the clouds.
Another tired litany of insults.
The Gospel is never obsolete. The Gospel is always significant. When the Church attempts to make the Gospel "relevant" it becomes "irrelevant".
Exhibit "A" is his own shambolic former diocese of Buenos Aires and the dioceses of his fanbois in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and Austria where the Church is virtually moribund. Are these what he has in mind as examples of a "culturally significant" Church? Are the empty churches in Belgium due to out-of-control "conservatism" and "fundamentalism" (whatever he means by that) in those parts? Is he unable to see that the only places where vocations are thriving are where the timeless, traditional liturgies and practices of the Church are still reverenced?
Then there's the familiar, tired perjoratives about Pelagianism and Gnosticism and the obligatory shtick about doctrine being the enemy of pastoral practice....
"As pastors may you not be preachers of complex doctrine, but pronouncers of Christ, dead and resurrected for us," he said. "Aim for the essential, the kerygma."
The "essential"?? Are certain Church doctrines "nonessential"? And which "complex doctrine" would he like to spare us? Is this doctrine inconvenient or are we just too dumb to understand?
It's precisely this dumbed-down, minimalist approach to Catholic catechesis, liturgy and the historical richness of the faith which is at the heart of our problems.
"For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified." I Corinthians
Change is futile. If Catholics dont have kids they’re done.
**If Catholics don’t have kids they’re done**
Amen to that.
What an idiot.
Some of the most meaningless blithering I have heard yet from Su Argentinidad.
Catholic doctrine is unsettled, eh?
“I have no idea what it means. He keeps talking of reform, yet isn’t changing anything like dogma.”
It does seem to be sowing confusion. I’ve been giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he’s talking about things that can be changed when he talks about “new things”, etc. The quote piusv mentions in post 19 does make me stop and go, “What?” He knows he can’t change doctrine, at the end of the synod he said doctrine was untouched. The biggest danger is that all this talk results in different pastoral practices. Parishioners divorced and remarried without an annulment point to Francis or some Cardinal and say they’ve examined their poorly or non-formed consciences and so can receive Communion and then the priest okays it. Or they don’t even tell a priest but just do it. Of course, some priests telling people they can use birth control, or commit other evils if they’ve examined their poorly or non-formed consciences has been going strong for decades.
Francis keeps asking for prayers, so everyone please say a prayer for him.
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