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To: Boogieman
"One only needs to compare North America to South America to see the fruits of Protestantism versus Catholicism, once it spread to the New World. "

This is a gross simplification that disregards dozens of factors. If it were true, then you'd be laying abortion, homosexuality, rampant political-correctness, obesity, and who knows what else, at the door of Protestantism.

20 posted on 10/30/2015 1:51:35 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“This is a gross simplification that disregards dozens of factors.”

It is a simplification, but I don’t think it’s either unfair or inaccurate. We can’t speak of matters as broad as this without simplifying things to an extent. I think if you were to try to break it down and analyze the minutia, you’d still find that many of those other factors you want to take into account were heavily influenced themselves by the Reformation, because it was one of the biggest factors impacting European society for centuries.

“If it were true, then you’d be laying abortion, homosexuality, rampant political-correctness, obesity, and who knows what else, at the door of Protestantism.”

That’s just fallacious reasoning since none of those evils originated with Protestantism, they are all quite ancient. You’re also only assigning blame to one party for ills present in their society, while ignoring the ills of the other society. Also, most of those problems have only increased in severity as North American countries began moving towards secularism, so we would have to conclude, if anything, there is a negative correlation between those problems and how Protestant our society was.


42 posted on 10/30/2015 4:41:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

And yet catholics have voted for more liberal presidents than conservative ones.


117 posted on 11/01/2015 5:49:30 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
This is a gross simplification that disregards dozens of factors. If it were true, then you'd be laying abortion, homosexuality, rampant political-correctness, obesity, and who knows what else, at the door of Protestantism.

Not when you look at the voting patterns of Catholics.

And aside from what individual Catholics have admitted to me themselves with their own mouths and told poll takers, it's clear that Catholics vote more liberal as the most heavily Catholic areas traditionally vote in the most liberal politicians.

There's no legitimate way to blame shift that away from Catholics.

118 posted on 11/01/2015 5:57:07 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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