Posted on 10/12/2015 6:59:36 AM PDT by ebb tide
A group of cardinals – including some of the most powerful figures in the Catholic Church – have written to Pope Francis telling him that his Synod on the Family, now meeting in Rome, has gone badly off the rails and could cause the church to collapse.
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Crisis for Pope Francis as top-level cardinals tell him: your synod could lead to the collapse of the church
There is no evil to the damage that can be done by a leftist.
And, this pope is a leftist.
Gasp, I’m getting worse and worse trying to type with an iPad.
That’s “limit”, not “evil”.
Yes, I’m going to my room for a time out.
I knew what you meant ;) But I am trying to understand this....so the cardinals are rebuking the pope for his past actions and views on gay marriage?
Christ tells us in scriptures that the “church”, the body of Christ, the true believers will never die.
It is the Vatican itself that will be destroyed, not its congregants.
That’s probably exactly what Francis had in mind. He and the Germans and the Argentine mafia are probably high-fiving each other even as we speak.
Like Obama’s mission is the destruction of the United States of America,
Pope Francis’ mission is the destruction of the Roman Catholic Church and Christianity as a whole.
These two missions converge.
Somebody tell me again why Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) stepped down.
No, they’re talking about the process, which is so confusing and manipulated and off-focus that it is resulting in chaos. It was bad to begin with, but the Pope personally changes it every day and the cardinals are afraid that their confusion is going to be used to claim that they have arrived at or supported conclusions that they have not. And they are complaining that, in any case, the Pope has no intention of even heeding what they are theoretically discussing, since he has already announced that it will be he himself and his handpicked committee of Argentine and other radicals who will produce the final “conclusions”...which may not even be in written form, but will simply be acted on by him.
Nobody knows. It would only have been if he thought that his resignation would prevent some worse damage to the Church. It occurred after two events: the receipt of the report on moral corruption, mostly homosexuality, and unorthodoxy in the higher clergy, and the strange freezing of Vatican accounts because of financial corruption...possibly as a warning to him not to continue with the clean-up process he had set in motion. It’s also possible that these two things were linked.
But they certainly wanted him out of there, and as you recall from the Vatileaks affair, there was definitely a conspiracy.
Wow, we are living in interesting times. Thank you.
Causing division among the Body of Christ is evil.
1 Corinthians 1:10-13
I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe’s people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
Luke 11:17
But he, knowing their thoughts, said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and a divided household falls.
Ephesians 4:3-6
[Be]Eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Colossians 3:12-15
Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful.
Matthew 18:15-18
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Proverbs 14:12
There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.
He will do whatever he wants.
He cares nothing of what Scripture says. Did you see the part during his recent visit where he mentioned the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
No?
Neither did I.
I heard a lot about "Climate Change", Marxism, and Social Justice, though.
Too late. That "pastoral" approach has been in full force since Vatican II. It's just that some are finally wising up to it.
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Update: As I write this (3.20pm Monday) various cardinals have said they didn’t sign the letter, some of them waiting several hours before distancing themselves from it. The latest report is that Erdö says he didn’t sign it. It’s extremely hard to get at the truth. ‘Not signing’ can mean a number of things, ranging from an outright false claim that a cardinal supported the letter to panicky backtracking by cardinals who did assent to it but are grasping at the technicality that they didn’t personally append their signature. But the damage to the synod is done.]
The other reason BXVI would have resigned would have been to protect - or at least protect the memory of - JPII. The one who was worst about ignoring or possibly even tolerating the cover up of sexual abuse and homosexuality was JPII. The Maciel case was the worst example of this, although all of the other high-level cover-ups occurred while JPII was Pope.
It’s never been clear to me why JPII took no action. As soon as BXVI became Pope, Maciel was a goner and there were also a couple of bishops in certain places (Ireland was one, I believe) whose “resignations were accepted.” The resignation of Danneels - whose behavior, known to JPII and all the world, was utterly scandalous and illegal - was accepted immediately and BXVI replaced him with somebody decent, who was then forced out under Francis. And of course, under Francis, Danneels - now over 80 - has become a very important and even crucial part of the Vatican gang.
So I would say that the threat may have been to JPII, not necessarily for any personal misbehavior, but because he had obviously knowingly tolerated serious and even criminal offenses among the higher clergy. There was probably a smoking gun somewhere in those documents.
And I do think there was probably some strange financial connection in there, too.
Also of note: “The Synod of Bishops” is a Vatican II/Paul VI novelty. Is it any wonder that it’s a failure?
That recent article, I’m sure you read, posits that the Church could go the way of Judaism; the Orthodox, the Reformed and I forget at the moment, the third divide.
This prediction seems to make the most sense to me, in the long term.
The Catholics could be or would be either Orthodox, Traditional, and Progressive.
It seems doubtful that the Catholic Church as a whole would simply devolve into one more Protestant denomination. No, the true Church will always be, even as Benedict XVI suggested- a smaller, but more devout Church. (something like that.) I would call that remnant Church, THE Church, but “Orthodox” might be it’s name. What do you think?
The Synod approach has paralleled the Alinsky approach, in all things institutional, in the West.
The Christian West has certainly been under grave attack by the Enemy.
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