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To: Faith Presses On

Jews simply do not believe in the New Testament, whereas you believe in the TaNaCh. We furthermore believe that Islam and Christianity ‘formatted’ (like an old floppy disk) the world for the imminent coming of Moshiach which will include the universal belief in one G-d.

Your words were heart-felt I have no doubt. And you have a deep love for Jesus, and faith. But just as many people believe in that wacky picture above with the same faith and fervor.
Go back to TaNaCh. There is not yet knowledge of G-d and world-wide peace. Moshiach hasn’t come, but is close.


13 posted on 08/23/2015 7:02:13 PM PDT by Phinneous (Who reads the religion thread at 7am?)
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To: Phinneous

I don’t have time to reply at length tonight, but on a few things you said, from what I understand, yes Jews don’t believe in the New Testament, but also from what I’ve heard, both from Messianic Jews and from comments I read by a Jewish writer who wrote about the New Testament, Jews for the most part haven’t read the New Testament. In keeping with this, this very article presents as informing Jews that Jesus said the Shema, as if with the expectation they’re unaware of it.

Then on Christianity and Islam, there’s really no comparison between them. For one thing, Christianity accepts the Tanach, while Islam in essence rejects it, revising the stories and basically casting them aside as corrupted and starting from scratch but incorporating what they choose, how they choose, from the Bible. The New Testament says God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, as God identified Himself to Moses, but Islam rejects that, saying at least in effect that God is the God of Abraham and Ishmael. This is why faithful Christians reject the secular humanist idea of “Abrahamic religions” as a revelation from God, because He Himself called Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and Islam doesn’t accept that.

On people believing in the picture above with the same faith and fervor, as you put it, I would say that again that’s a superficial comparison. We know from the Old Testament, your Tanach, that people have the need for a god or gods to worship, and more often the false gods, the idols, are more attractive to us. So the same comparison can be made between Judaism and Hinduism. And I will add that converts to Christianity from other religions like Hinduism, and also Islam, have a lot to say on how its beliefs proved false, and Christianity proved true. And one can say that there are people leaving every religion for just about every other one, so what’s the point on that? And the point is examining the testimonies of people leaving one religion and going to another, and especially in the light of God’s Word, and looking at the fruit they describe in their lives from their beliefs. Having looked into different religions when I was younger, I have no doubt at all about them being manmade religions that are out of God’s will, where even the truths they do contain have been severely distorted.

So, I will say that Christianity is not at all like what’s represented in the picture of Vishnu. For years I was a Christian who had only read the first couple of books of the Old Testament and some Psalms, and the four Gospels of the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, which record Jesus’ time on earth. Then I read the whole Christian Bible, and from that I will say that I see the unity between the two Testaments. There is so much revelation in the New Testament, and truly I have to tell you that it would just not be possible for me to go back to the Tanach alone. It’s said by Christians that the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is the Old revealed, but I would also say that the Old sheds a lot of light on the New, too. And the two Testaments do not teach separately, but together. Something from one Testament always ties in to something from the other. So much of the Gospels when I first read them simply went over my head, I know now, when I hadn’t read the Old Testament. On the New Testament, it reveals so much, that as I said, I could not forget all that it has revealed and taught me, and continues to teach me, and I can’t deny that I believe the Gospel is the truth, which steadfastly seeking the truth will always lead to. So I do believe the New Testament, and while I believe you are heartfelt, too, in what you wrote, I also believe that the Messiah has come once, in the person of Jesus Christ, and as He promised, He will return one day in glory.


14 posted on 08/23/2015 8:09:38 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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