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To: Albion Wilde
When I think of the principled theological behavior of men (as in, the guys) I often have to think of the wide cavalcade of OT history in which an entire, classically patriarchal society went off the rails over and over again under the influence of corrupt priests, false prophets, and apostate kings.

Then I have to think of the day of Christ's death and the ignominious behavior of His own hand-picked men: one betrayed Him, one denied Him three times, and the other nine headed out toward the tall grass. Only John proved himself loyal, and that was, incidentally, by sticking with Jesus' mother and the faithful women at the foot of the cross.

Or I recall how the entire national clergy of England collapsed into craven acceptance of that pervert King Henry VIII, who was willing to "redefine marriage," commit treason against the Church, and permanently split Christendom, so he could "marry" his repellent girlfriend and crown her queen of the realm. Every Catholic bishop in England went along with that, with the sole exception of St. John Fisher, who, with St. Thomas More, retained his integrity and was parted from his head as befits a saint.

I don't entirely ignore your story of the moral softness which has come along concurrent with the ordaining of female pastorship within Protesantism. But I think you may have cause-and-effect twisty-tailed around. What you think was the cause, may have been the result.

12 posted on 08/20/2015 12:19:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I think you may have cause-and-effect twisty-tailed around. What you think was the cause, may have been the result.

Good point. It's possible. But getting past having ordained women is going to take a century to straighten out, provided another century is granted to us.

Not arguing with you, btw, Mrs. D. Always enjoy a good "tennis game" with you!

13 posted on 08/20/2015 12:46:42 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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