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Bishop Roger Foys: Stop Holding Hands! (during Our Father)
http://www.praytellblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2011-Pastoral-Letter-with-Decree-Bulletin-Ins ^ | 11/18/11 | Most Reverend Roger J. Foys, D. D. Bishop of Covington

Posted on 07/29/2015 5:08:22 PM PDT by ebb tide

Special note should also be made concerning the gesture for the Our Father. Only the priest is given the instruction to “extend” his hands. Neither the deacon nor the lay faithful are instructed to do this. No gesture is prescribed for the lay faithful in the Roman Missal; nor the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, therefore the extending or holding of hands by the faithful should not be performed.

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1 posted on 07/29/2015 5:08:22 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Now if we could only get rid of the “Peace be with you but not if you want to get out of your parking spot in front of me” handshake


2 posted on 07/29/2015 5:10:25 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: ebb tide
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3 posted on 07/29/2015 5:10:53 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ebb tide

Seriously? “No gesture is prescribed for the lay faithful in the Roman Missal; nor the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, therefore the extending or holding of hands by the faithful should not be performed.” So in other words, the Roman Missal doesn’t say anything about it therefore it should not happen.

Is this really what the priests and bishops think is important right now?


4 posted on 07/29/2015 5:12:04 PM PDT by Mercat (I will vote for any viable candidate running against Hillary.)
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To: ebb tide

So glad to hear this! Holding hands with pew neighbors is way too touchy feely / 70’s for me. Not sure when / where this terrible habit began.


5 posted on 07/29/2015 5:12:20 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall
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To: ebb tide
Bishop warns about attending SSPX Mass.
6 posted on 07/29/2015 5:14:47 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: ebb tide

I was taught that

no gesture is prescribed for the lay faithful in the Roman Missal; nor the General Instruction of the Roman Missal,

thus any instruction of how to gesture during the Our Father from anyone other than the Roman Missal in not authorized.

However, the holding of hands can symbolize a community, but this should not take place until AFTER communion, thus holding hands during the Our Father is not preferable.


7 posted on 07/29/2015 5:14:58 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Mercat

What else does he need to tell you? To stop picking your nose, during Mass?


8 posted on 07/29/2015 5:16:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mercat
"Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi."

It IS important, because it affects the nature of the prayer, because it affects the mental inclination of those performing it.

Same thing with kneeling, genuflecting, etc. As C.S. Lewis said, we are souls, but we have bodies, and our physical situation (including our posture) does affect our souls.

9 posted on 07/29/2015 5:18:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Mercat

we agree


10 posted on 07/29/2015 5:19:09 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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To: kidd

I went to an English language Mass south of the border. There are a lot of retired Americans living in that beach community. Before the Mass starts the congregation is instructed to hold their own two hands together palm to palm during the Our Father. It is the bishop who made the decision.


11 posted on 07/29/2015 5:21:18 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: forgotten man

Also, down there they kneel while receiving communion on the tongue.


12 posted on 07/29/2015 5:22:12 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: ebb tide

My wife and I hold hands when pray at church for the sense of unity in Christ it gives us....


13 posted on 07/29/2015 5:25:34 PM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: clarissaexplainsitall

I’m an interpreter for the deaf at Mass. The particular church where I interpret is chock full of these “hand holders” during the Lord’s Prayer.

Problem is, my deaf worshipers sign the Lord’s Prayer! There have been instances where hearing people standing next to them have actually reached over and grabbed their hands mid-sign and tried to hold hands! Yes, they can be that clueless and insensitive. When that’s happened I’ve had to step over and say to the clutzes “They’re deaf; they’re signing - they need to use their hands.” Their reaction? Usually “Oh! I didn’t realize...”


14 posted on 07/29/2015 5:25:37 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: gorush

Lol!


15 posted on 07/29/2015 5:26:33 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: gorush

Lol!


16 posted on 07/29/2015 5:26:39 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Mercat

When I lived in Germany, the people there followed the dictum:

“What is not explicitly allowed is forbidden.”

Here in the USA, our dictum has generally been:

“What is not explicitly forbidden is allowed.”


17 posted on 07/29/2015 5:30:35 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: AnAmericanMother

I say the Our Father several times per day and on the few occasions when Mr. M goes to Mass with me I rejoice that I can pray while holding his hand. We also kiss afterwards which I am sure is not in the Roman Missal.


18 posted on 07/29/2015 5:31:19 PM PDT by Mercat (I will vote for any viable candidate running against Hillary.)
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To: Mercat

Holding hands started in AA meetings in the 60s and it caught on in protestant services. It then of course was mimicked by lax Catholics. Just more protestant poison that needs to be eliminated in the Catholic Church.


19 posted on 07/29/2015 5:35:54 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Mercat

I’m afraid it is. Don’t expect anything much on Planned Parenthood or gay marriage, however, except a reminder to be nice and hold hands.


20 posted on 07/29/2015 5:47:45 PM PDT by madprof98
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