What lies.
See the Scriptures about authority.
Yeah, I have, and there’s no “Pope” or mention of the Catholic church in there. There’s also no Mary worship or support for Peter being the first El Papa.”
There’s also no support for praying to “Saints,” as the Church’s members were the actual saints. Nothing supports intersession by anyone outside of Christ.
This always provides an excellent opportunity to politely skewer the standard Catholic superiority complex.
Cheers.