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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Actually, Jesus didn't say "flesh and bone"; He said "flesh and bones" -- plural. That means when His disciples shook His hand, and saw his joints work, He had a skeleton as did His pre-Cross form. They heard his voice box produce sound waves, and observed him to masticate bread and fish. His reality was validated and vindicated, and was seen to operate just like any other human (except, of course, a stone wall will not be an obstruction). And from conception in Mary, He was, is, and always ill be fully human in operation. Otherwise, we could not have an Eternal High Priest to represent the human descendants of Adam before God the Father.

Yes, as the firstborn from the dead ones, the firstborn of many believer brethren who will also be raised up out of the dead ones with flesh and bones, changed instantly from corruptible form to the incorruptible new human body form. He was accepted as the exact prototype (except for the nail print and pierced side wounds) and perfect example of what they and we are to be, seen of them and more than 500 others over a period of forty days before He manifested the ability to pass directly from their presence in this dimension into The God's dimension which shares a coexisting interface with our three-dimensional temporal world.

"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: . . ." (Col. 1:15 AV; Jesus being the referent here).

"For whom he (The Father) did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he (His Son) might be the firstborn (from the dead) among many brethren" (Rom. 8:29 AV).

Note that regenerated believer-disciple-priest Christ-followers already have their new spiritual nature, coexisting with the old carnal nature in this husk of flesh and blood and bones.

The risen human Jesus commanded the faithless disciple, ". . . be not faithless, but believing. . . . Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed" (AV translation).

Be like Thomas yourself converted.

826 posted on 08/05/2015 4:28:24 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Actually, Jesus didn't say "flesh and bone"; He said "flesh and bones" -- plural. That means when His disciples shook His hand, and saw his joints work, He had a skeleton as did His pre-Cross form. They heard his voice box produce sound waves, and observed him to masticate bread and fish. His reality was validated and vindicated, and was seen to operate just like any other human (except, of course, a stone wall will not be an obstruction). And from conception in Mary, He was, is, and always ill be fully human in operation. Otherwise, we could not have an Eternal High Priest to represent the human descendants of Adam before God the Father. Yes, as the firstborn from the dead ones, the firstborn of many believer brethren who will also be raised up out of the dead ones with flesh and bones, changed instantly from corruptible form to the incorruptible new human body form. He was accepted as the exact prototype (except for the nail print and pierced side wounds) and perfect example of what they and we are to be, seen of them and more than 500 others over a period of forty days before He manifested the ability to pass directly from their presence in this dimension into The God's dimension which shares a coexisting interface with our three-dimensional temporal world.

So bones are going to rise out of graveyards? God considers the inside of a casket to be filthy. He's going to haul all that filthiness to Heaven?

"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: . . ." (Col. 1:15 AV; Jesus being the referent here). "For whom he (The Father) did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he (His Son) might be the firstborn (from the dead) among many brethren" (Rom. 8:29 AV). Note that regenerated believer-disciple-priest Christ-followers already have their new spiritual nature, coexisting with the old carnal nature in this husk of flesh and blood and bones. The risen human Jesus commanded the faithless disciple, ". . . be not faithless, but believing. . . . Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed" (AV translation).

You take no consideration of what happened on the Mount of Transfiguration. Jesus was not shining like the sun when He appeared to the women and the apostles, they didn't think He was different from other men at first.

Be like Thomas yourself converted.

I have no problem believing Jesus proved He defeated death by appearing to the apostles in His flesh form. But Jesus did say there would come a time when we wouldn't have Him. I would think if He still was in the semi-flesh body He would intervene here and there. He took off though, and hasn't been back, but gave each of us who believe the holy Spirit to take His place. That tells me He changed into his spiritual body, and will return as such at the Seventh Trump and we will all be changed at once so we can be with Him. He certainly won't spend eternity with scratches on His head and holes in His hands. Satan will be snuffed out after the White Throne Judgment, no need to see Satan's works anymore.

828 posted on 08/06/2015 9:39:09 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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