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To: daniel1212
I agree with the contention on abortion.

Terrorism.

But to equate homo marriage with terrorism is simply absurd.

In fact I don't care who a homo "marries", nor a good Christian. I simply cannot understand the fevered opposition.

The state will do as the state sees fit. They will not compel you to marry a homo.

Why does anyone care who or what the state certifies as "marriage"?

10 posted on 07/25/2015 9:16:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner
Why does anyone care who or what the state certifies as "marriage"?
Because God cares!
11 posted on 07/25/2015 9:56:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mariner
"Why does anyone care who or what the state certifies as "marriage"?"

Because this goes to the very fabric of our culture - and because God said not to do it.
Did you read the whole sermon? And still you don't see it as a big deal?

13 posted on 07/25/2015 10:16:02 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Mariner

There comes a time (as it may well have already done) when one finally says, “Let those who be FILTHY be filthy still (in peace).” - The “state” will never be able to govern itself; that is why Christ will return to this earth & the government will be upon his shoulders. - It will happen quickly. I can’t say precisely when; but quickly, and, I suspect - soon. - Meantime, those of us who don’t SUPPORT queer “marriage” will be increasingly ostracized & criticized as “stupid”, “ignorant”, & “intolerant”. Then if we don’t comply, eventually the authorities will come for us - after they’ve punished us severely enough to accomplish total compliance.


14 posted on 07/25/2015 11:15:57 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Mariner

Dear FRiend, I have always had a “live and let live” approach to this issue as well.

However, the “terrorism” comparison enters the equation when individuals are forced to, not only participate, but celebrate something that is against their deeply held beliefs. People are losing their livelihoods, their businesses, their homes, and their savings over this.

I was faced with the prospect of being asked to provide the music for a Lesbian wedding (long term customers), who decided to tie the knot when it became legal. I was afraid to answer the phone when my caller-ID indicated that they were calling me. However, I did answer (praying all the while) and the request was for something else (THANK GOD!)

Of course, I am a penniless widow, so nobody would get much if they sued me! The joke would be on them.


16 posted on 07/25/2015 12:14:42 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Mariner
I agree with the contention on abortion. Terrorism. But to equate homo marriage with terrorism is simply absurd. In fact I don't care who a homo "marries", nor a good Christian. I simply cannot understand the fevered opposition.

If you do not see how SOTUS penalizing any state that will not sanction as marriage the union of sodomites then you have a very superficial understanding of what this represents. But perhaps you see no value in the Bible being the tested transcendent moral standard for moral laws, even if according to principles.

It would seem that you disagree that Godliness and morality is a country's greatest strength (not simply in terms of power), and that the overall character of a country, and that the Hollywoods and the purveyors and purchasers of perversion within a country, and a far greater threat then enemies without, and that moral decline accompanied every nation that itself eventually went South.

Sexually joining together what God has placed asunder is the capstone of the demonic liberal overthrowing of traditional Biblical morality, which has already cost American greatly in souls, lives and money , and dignifying it by affording it the title of marriage, and requiring the entire nation to do so, is indeed an act of terrorism against both Constitutional freedom (with its basis and necessary limits) and Biblical morality which only blesses a country, and requiring all states to basically salute the flag of Sodom will have effects which are far more detrimental to American society than any physical act of terrorism has.

Men having sex with men (MSM) has itself already been primarily responsible for the death of over 600,000 Americans, and despite attempts to tame it somewhat this unholy union is still responsible for 79% of new HIV cases. Moreover, the lifetime ( 24.2 years avg.) HIV care cost per person in optimal HIV care is now $618,900 per person. The discounted (accounting for the time-specific value of costs and benefits) lifetime cost of comprehensive treatment per HIV-infected person was $385,000. The total discounted cost, including lost productivity, of the estimated 40,000 new HIV infections expected to occur in the United States every year, was estimated to be approximately $53 billion. - http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/45/Supplement_4/S248.full. Read more: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html#ixzz3gw8eR6nE

Sodomy also typically results in a greatly increased incidence of infectious diseases and premature death, and lesbians have a much greater rate of attempted suicide.

One would think that marriage then would be favored in the interest of public health, but the homosexual reality is that marriage is not only redefined as regard what is joined together, but it is also typically not monogamous either. For one, the Gay Couples Study, followed 556 male couples for three years and found about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners. - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/29/us/29sfmetro.html?_r=0

However, even if these detrimental physical effects were not seen then homosexual relationships would still be evil as that are contrary to what God has ordained. And made man and women uniquely compatible and complimentary, and they alone are joined by God in marriage, with opposite genders being specified by both Genesis and personally by Jesus Christ. (Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4) The Bible only condemns homosexual relations - by design and decree, in principle and by precept - and never sanctions them wherever they are manifestly dealt with, and the injunctions against them are part of the transcendent and immutable moral law. (Lv. 18:22; Rm. 1:26,27)

However, some of the first Christians were likely former homosexuals, (1Cor. 6:9-11) and there is room at the cross for all who want the Lord Jesus over sin, and believe upon Him to save them who died for them, and rose again. And who thus are baptized and follow Him, to the glory of God. Joining

26 posted on 07/25/2015 1:59:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mariner
The state will do as the state sees fit. They will not compel you to marry a homo.

They can and have and will punish those who will not marry them, or provide what they demand in order to do so.

The devil works to created an alternative society, with his perversion of what God ordained, and in which the devil receives homage via his proxy servants.

28 posted on 07/25/2015 2:21:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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