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To: Louis Foxwell

Nope, communism isn’t the child of the French revolution. And you forgot another country that got rid of a Monarch by using force.
We did. And it was a violent and deadly war that destroyed lives. And we had to fight it again in 1812 when the Monarchy came roaring back.

And nearly every reduction in Monarchy i’ve ever heard of was force or threat of force. And more than a few saw what happened to the French and took the example.

And you must have a wonderful sense of humor if you think the Germans and Austrians lost their monarchy peacefully.
But in the end, all monarchs bear the responsibility for the cost of their removal. Whether it is some Aztec king, a French Catholic king, or some fat farting potentate somewhere else,,,, if they simply relinquished all claims to rule over others, there would not be violence.

They ruled by violence. None were from God, and all gained their positions through the exercise of raw power. But oh how they squeal when someone dare use muscle against them.


24 posted on 07/14/2015 2:41:16 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

You really need to read up on the French Revolution. You don’t understand that it was less about removing a monarchy than it was about the brutal implementation of a far left ideology, yet another bloodbath perpetrated by the left. The King was removed and he and his wife executed relatively early in the whole thing. Then the real slaughter began.

To compare our revolution to the French Revolution is a travesty and an insult to our forefathers.

I recommend reading “Paris in The Terror” by Stanley Loomis.


31 posted on 07/14/2015 4:26:10 PM PDT by ladyrustic
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To: DesertRhino

Communism is absolutely a descendant of the French Revolution.

Marx used it, partially, as a template.


45 posted on 07/15/2015 12:43:41 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan ('Zionists crept into my home and stole my shoe' - Headline)
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To: DesertRhino

“Nope, communism isn’t the child of the French revolution.”

Yes, actually, communism IS the child of the French Revolution. Even Karl Marx specifically credited the French Revolution for brainstorming Communism. I believe his exact words on the subject were “Once we are at the helm, we shall be obliged to reenact the year 1793. We’ll be viewed as monsters, but we could care less” and “The vengeance of the people will break forth with such ferocity that not even the year 1793 enables us to envisage it.” And if that’s not enough, he credited Gracchus as being the first Communist, and Lenin upon winning his revolution commissioned Monumental Propaganda, a statue line depicting figures from, you guessed it, the French Revolution. Heck, before Internationale became the anthem for Communism, La Marsellaise acted as its anthem. So yes, it’s very clear that the French Revolution inspired Communism in more ways than one.

“And you forgot another country that got rid of a Monarch by using force. We did. And it was a violent and deadly war that destroyed lives. And we had to fight it again in 1812 when the Monarchy came roaring back.”

We didn’t murder King George III, however, whether via a kangaroo court or even just blowing his brains out. That’s one other major difference between us and the French/Russians. And make no mistake, we could have just as easily gotten our independence by just sending a sniper to London and shooting King George III when he makes a speech in front of everyone if we so desired. If any instance was best comparable, try the Glorious Revolution, since that actually DID result in King Charles being murdered like King Louis XVI later on (and not because he was harming people, but simply for the “crime” of being Catholic).

“And you must have a wonderful sense of humor if you think the Germans and Austrians lost their monarchy peacefully. But in the end, all monarchs bear the responsibility for the cost of their removal. Whether it is some Aztec king, a French Catholic king, or some fat farting potentate somewhere else,,,, if they simply relinquished all claims to rule over others, there would not be violence.”

Oh really? Last I checked, King Louis XVI didn’t use violence against his people. He was arguably the best ruler they ever had. Him and Marie Antoinette. He certainly didn’t use raw power.

“They ruled by violence. None were from God, and all gained their positions through the exercise of raw power. But oh how they squeal when someone dare use muscle against them.”

Well, gee, I guess King David of the Bible was not of God, then, or King Solomon, since no kings are from God (oh, and BTW, that’s supposed to be sarcasm). And I guess God murdered his own son Jesus just because he can’t stomach the thought of his son being king (again, sarcasm).


48 posted on 06/11/2019 6:17:23 AM PDT by otness_e
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