Posted on 07/08/2015 6:24:59 AM PDT by Gamecock
It is because of the numbers, that is why. But still, Christians have fallen down on the job.
Great Post Catholicism also has many pagan symbols and practices interwoven into their faith. Look it up. Glad Im Baptist and pray for the Catholics, alot are good folks but have grown up in this ideology.
Catholic Paganism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxfmedgtKpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erlIoFmz_AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuBY3dhhfo
Educate yourselves.
Guess that leaves Paul out of the mix??
He was called directly by Christ.
Can you with 100% certainty say that non-Catholic pastors are not called by Christ to preach??
WHOA!!! You're saying this guy's not catholic????
A couple other puzzlers that make no sense:
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Christ was obviously condemning using “father” as an honorific, since He repeatedly used “father” to describe the male parent...
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Catholics rather boldly teach that their traditions trump Scripture wherever the two are in dispute... And that’s a rather dire warning Christ gives for holding to tradition over God’s commandments. Tradition that trumps Scripture therefore definitionally can NOT be from the Holy Spirit.
So what? The apostles said "For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed" and "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you".
There is no unimpeachable source of Christian truth outside of the words of the apostles as they were originally gifted to the church militant. There is no unimpeachable source for the words of the apostles outside of the Bible.
The apostles never said they would appoint successors that would never teach wrong. 2 Timothy 2:2 and what you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also."
Just because they were entrusted, does not mean that there is a promise that they will not err. Notice the requirement of many witnesses? You can't just make stuff up and say it's from the apostles.
1 Timothy 1:4 nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.
Another day, another Proddie lie.
He evidently didn't tell Paul:
For if you were to have countless tutors in Christ, yet you would not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. -- 1 Cor 4:15, NASB
I appeal to you for my child Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my imprisonment … -- Phlm 10, NASB
Catholics rather boldly teach that their traditions trump Scripture wherever the two are in dispute
Well, no, actually we teach no such thing. But we're happy to teach that "our traditions" trump *your* erroneous understanding of Scripture.
Typical Papist personal attack.
From the link:
the Mass is called a divine sacrifice (CCC, 1068) that is done over and over again. We are told that "the sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice"; (CCC, 1367); that it is an unbloody offering that is proptiatory, (CCC, 1367); that it can make reparation of sins, (CCC, 1414); and is to be considered a true and proper sacrifice (The Catholic Encyclopedia, topic: "Sacrifice of the Mass").If it walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, then it's Roman Catholic!
Actually, the original Greek of 1 Cor. 4:15 didn’t use the word “pater” at all. Instead, there were many “instructors/tutors” and he “regenerated/conceived/etc.” them through the gospel. “Pater” wasn’t used in Phm 10 either. It’s using “father” as an honorific that Christ condemned, and Paul carefully didn’t use that word, the NASB notwithstanding.
So Catholics go to a man they shouldn’t call “father,” and he absolves them of sin he has no ability to absolve, if they repetitively pray five Hail Marys. Nope. Don’t see any tradition there at all. Every bit of that is supported in Scripture. /s
Which brings up another puzzler:
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Multiple Hail Marys?
Correction. “Pater” was used in 1 Cor. 4:15. But Paul rather carefully doesn’t call himself a “father.”
"This charge I commit to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophetic utterances which pointed to you, that inspired by them you may wage the good warfare"
(1 Tim 1:18)
and here :
"You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus"
(2 Tim. 2:1)
or here :
"But Timothy’s worth you know, how as a son with a father he has served with me in the gospel"
(Phil. 2:22).
There are a good many more, but go ahead, pretend to know what you're talking about.
The media and government gin up support for their attacks on Christianity and the useful idiots of anti-Catholicism jump on the media bandwagon to help them while their fellow Christians perish in the heresy of Korah.
But the Catholic Catechism says Islam ok....lmao what a joke. Its Roman pagan garbage mixed with Christianity for the roman empire under Constantine. The apostles and Jesus had nothing to do with all these satanic symbolism and practices.
My last reply was sent to the wrong person, no edit key is a killer ...
Oh really? Greek - patér - Definition: father, (Heavenly) Father, ancestor, elder, senior. [http://biblehub.com/greek/3962.htm]
Are you claiming to know specifically which definition Paul meant?
No, it doesn't, but thanks for making it clear a large part of the problem around here is that people believe whatever trash an anti-Catholic site pumps our or are themselves incapable of reading more than a single sentence and understanding what they just read.
Notice - I'm responding to a change of subject, the usual refuge of the anti-Catholic dolts deluded into their rut and the dedicated anti-Christian propagandists who feed such dolts.
you have a nice day now, giggles.
Enjoy your pagan symbols, statues and practices. Cheers.
The anti-Catholic crowd is so predictable, especially when confronted by Scripture from the portion of the Bible they haven't thrown out yet or choose to ignore.
“The Church’s relationship with Muslims. The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place among whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 841, quoting Lumen Gentium 16.)”
I guess facts dont matter sounds like what liberals do when presented with facts.
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