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To: Morgana
10. “Catholics believe you can pay your way into Heaven.” We definitely do not. That is a huge misconception which occurred during the Protestant Reformation.

And this is the fault of Protestants? Why link it to the Reformation?

10 posted on 07/07/2015 11:29:58 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik; Morgana

On the inside of the cover of the New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism published in 1969 there is a prayer. After the prayer it says the following:

“An indulgence of five years. A plenary indulgence on the usual conditions, provided this prayer has been recited daily for a month.”..... This means that by saying the prayer properly, five years is removed from a person’s time in purgatory.

On the same page of the New St. Joseph Baltimore Catechism it says,..... “The faithful who devote 20 minutes to a half hour to teaching or studying Christian doctrine, may gain: an indulgence of three years. A plenary indulgence on the usual conditions twice a month, if the above practice is carried out at least twice a month.”

So ‘indulgences’ continue and were definitly re-enstated in Vatican ll...which is paying your way.

Indulgences only have value in Catholicism due to the unbiblical teaching of purgatory, which the Roman Catholic Church teaches is a place of punishment where people expiate their own sins there (CCC, 1475).

Expiation is “a term associated with the removal, cleansing, or forgiveness of sin.”1 But how does a person expiate or cleanse himself of his own sins? He doesn’t. If there were a means by which we could cleanse ourselves on our own sins, then God would have provided that.

“I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly,” (Gal. 2:21).


15 posted on 07/07/2015 11:45:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: AlaskaErik
and this is the fault of Protestants? Why link it to the Reformation?

That's where protestants came from...1,600 years after the fact.

92 posted on 07/08/2015 8:40:17 PM PDT by terycarl (, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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