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Why the SCOTUS Ruling on Same Sex Marriage Almost Broke My Heart
catholic365.com ^ | June 30, 2015 | Joe Klaas

Posted on 06/30/2015 5:35:36 PM PDT by Morgana

Hello everybody. The Supreme Court ruling in favor of same sex marriage occurred June 26, 2015. I do not agree with it. I have to say, the last few days, I have been kinda bummed out about it. I have thought and prayed much about it. Why is that? Oh, the bigoted, hateful guy didn't get his way? He hates gay people so much, he's sad that the Court didn't rule his way. Is that it? Easy. Let's all stop being armchair psychologists, alright.

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth, and in Jesus Christ, His only Son our Lord.

This is the beginning of the Apostle's Creed. I believe it. This is why I'm sad. Because I love you all so much. I want us all to go to Heaven one day. I believe following what Christ said is the way to get there. He said that the only way to the Father is through Him.

When discussing divorce with the Pharisees, Christ said, "Don't you know what my Father has said? That in the beginning He made them man and woman, and for this reason, the man will leave his mother and father and cling to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh, and they will not be two anymore, but one." (Matthew 19:2-6) Yes, this was a discussion about divorce, but the lines, on what true marriage is, were drawn right there. So who am I to say who can marry? I don't have that power. Christ said it. He has that power, because He came from the Father. From the union of man and woman, life is created. No other union can do this, which is why it is true marriage and love. I believe in Christ, so I have a duty to try my best to talk about His message when the opportunity presents itself, or heck, even when the opportunity doesn't present itself. Christ said to His disciples, "Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him." (Luke 17-3) Two verses prior, He said that "sin will inevitably occur, but woe to the person through whom they occur." Christ's talk of rebuking sin lines up with what His Father said through the prophet Ezekiel in the first 9 verses of chapter 33. This is why I can't support it, and why I don't believe anyone should support it. I don't want woe for anyone. Woe is bad. Again, I didn't say this, but Christ who comes from the Father said this. I realize this will make people not like me. Some people think I get some kick out of talking about this. Believe me, I don't enjoy it one bit. Having people become experts of what's in my heart isn't fun. That is ok. Christ said that He did not come to unite, but to divide. Mother against daughter. Father against son. (Luke 12:51-53) Basically, not to put man above God. He told His disciples that they will be hated because of Him (Luke 21:12-18). Please do not confuse this as me judging. (Even though the "Judge not lest ye be judged" verse doesn't literally mean not to judge. Read all of it. Matthew 7:1-5). And I'm not calling for any harm to be done to anyone, so please dispense with the "Cast the first stone" references....then read what Jesus told the adulterous woman after He chased away those wanting to stone her. John 8:1-11) I am simply speaking what Christ said. And again, no, I'm not using religion to justify any deep held hate, because I do not hold hate in my heart. I believe in, and love, Christ. EVERYTHING about Christ.

So that's why I'm sad. It's not because I hate anybody. It's because I love everybody that this makes me sad. I want us all to get to Heaven. I'm not saying I think I have my spot in Heaven cinched. I don't. I don't have it all figured out and I don't know if I have a spot cinched for me in Heaven. Nobody does, and anyone who thinks they do is fooling themselves and probably not working to better themselves anymore. I sin. I have my struggles. But I strive to be contrite and confess my sins, then I try my hardest not to sin again. I fail. But I keep trying. I'm not saying people who are gay are bad because they're gay, because that's not true at all. I know many, and they are terrific, and I would do anything for them. And I'm not sayng you're definitely NOT going to Heaven if you supported the ruling. I don't know the lengths of God's mercy, because I am not even remotely close to His level. But I'm not going to chance it, and will strive to keep me and my family in line with His word instead of blatantly going against it. I will continue to love all, no matter what. Whether you supported this decision or not, I will love you unconditionally. Whether you will continue to support this decision, I will love you unconditionally. None of this changes the way I feel about any of you, and I hope the feeling is reciprocated. I love you all, and have a blessed Sunday :)

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

(P.S. The Old Testament is often criticized for some of the things that are called sin in it. It is also criticized as being man's interpretation of what God said. This is why Christ came, to fulfill the Old Testament, and not to leave anything to interpretation. We got the Word straight from His mouth. He upheld some things from the Old Testament, and did away with many of the old laws from Moses. So please, no stories about eating shrimp and pork, and wearing different fabrics, and many of the other laws from Moses).


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda; scotus

1 posted on 06/30/2015 5:35:36 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

They sanctified their decision on Gay Pride Weekend (Stonewall Riots Day was Sunday June 28th). It was a political maneuver with little regard for law or the Constitution.

False gods in black dresses “made it so”.

Why did the rest of the world celebrate? I don’t recall that being the case when other nations changed their marriage laws.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 5:38:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: Morgana

Many people confuse telling someone what they want to hear with love, when love is telling them the truth that could save their eternal souls. We have to learn to speak the truth in love even though we may be reviled and persecuted for doing so. It could be the difference between life and death to those we are called to share the gospel with.


3 posted on 06/30/2015 5:44:42 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: a fool in paradise
They sanctified their decision on Gay Pride Weekend (Stonewall Riots Day was Sunday June 28th). It was a political maneuver with little regard for law or the Constitution.

I think part of the reason for this was also to divert attention from the Trans Pacific Partner trade deal that passed under the radar. This is bad law, like Dred Scott. If I had to rule, I would have kicked it back to the States and the people.
4 posted on 06/30/2015 5:46:35 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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To: Morgana

http://www.gotquestions.org/know-sure-Heaven.html


5 posted on 06/30/2015 5:46:39 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: a fool in paradise
personally I expected this ruling and the bamanocare ruling....

its in the cards...

we will survive....we will thrive....they will know us by our love....

6 posted on 06/30/2015 5:58:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

The Catholic Church will survive.

I don’t think our nation will do so well.

Read today’s first reading about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.


7 posted on 06/30/2015 6:08:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“The Catholic Church will survive.”

I had a protestant minister I know tell me today that the Catholic Church will give in to gay marriage. I told him it won’t happen.

We all know what’s coming down the pike after this ruling. They will try to force us to “marry” gays. In fact I am almost certain this supreme court ruling was targeting us because most all other protestant churches, with some exceptions, now allow gays to marry.


8 posted on 06/30/2015 6:31:49 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...
So that's why I'm sad. It's not because I hate anybody. It's because I love everybody that this makes me sad. I want us all to get to Heaven. I'm not saying I think I have my spot in Heaven cinched. I don't. I don't have it all figured out and I don't know if I have a spot cinched for me in Heaven. Nobody does, and anyone who thinks they do is fooling themselves and probably not working to better themselves anymore. I sin. I have my struggles. But I strive to be contrite and confess my sins, then I try my hardest not to sin again. I fail. But I keep trying. I'm not saying people who are gay are bad because they're gay, because that's not true at all. I know many, and they are terrific, and I would do anything for them. And I'm not sayng you're definitely NOT going to Heaven if you supported the ruling. I don't know the lengths of God's mercy, because I am not even remotely close to His level. But I'm not going to chance it, and will strive to keep me and my family in line with His word instead of blatantly going against it. I will continue to love all, no matter what. Whether you supported this decision or not, I will love you unconditionally. Whether you will continue to support this decision, I will love you unconditionally. None of this changes the way I feel about any of you, and I hope the feeling is reciprocated. I love you all, and have a blessed Sunday :)

Wow, this guy is squishy.

I'm so sad, oh woe is me, poor me, I'm so sad.....

This decision should have surprised exactly no one.

The world is going to do what the world is going to do because it's their nature to do it. They are unregenerate and no moral compass or base.

It was as predictable as the sunrise from people who don't obey God in any other area of their lives.

And love isn't just a feeling. It's a choice.

Jesus is love personified and HE didn't go around whining.

9 posted on 06/30/2015 6:39:03 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: a fool in paradise

They can make it legal, but they can’t make it RIGHT.

God is not mocked.

We will reap in the whirlwind what we sowed in the wind.


10 posted on 06/30/2015 6:41:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Morgana

I would hate the queer marriage ruling even if I was an atheist because it is against human nature.


11 posted on 06/30/2015 7:10:04 PM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: metmom; GeronL

” Wow, this guy is squishy.

I’m so sad, oh woe is me, poor me, I’m so sad.....”

Yea I know EXACTLY how he feels too! Here I am and others like me working out my salvation with fear and trembling just like the Bible says and what are they doing? They are on the highway to Hell, driving as fast as they can in a Hennessey Venom GT. Many of them don’t know but you know what? Many don’t even care! Yes it makes me sad. This is a sad state of affairs to see people lose their souls over lust.


12 posted on 06/30/2015 7:45:28 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Look, what’s happening to this country is heart breaking and no one who calls themselves a Christian can help but be grieved by it, but to go around whining about how *sad* this makes him, is just unbecoming of a man or Christian. He’s just so passive aggressive about it.

Quit whining!!!!

It sounds just so much like how I hear some people try to appeal to little kids to get them to behave. *You’ve made me sad. You don’t want to do that, now do you? Can’t you be good and make me not sad any more?*

You know what? They don’t care if we’re sad. They’re celebrating their way to hell and the rest of us be damned.

“I believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus.” ??????

Well, what if someone else doesn’t?

He needs to grow a pair and state it as fact. The ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus. HE loves you unconditionally and will forgive you and wants to forgive you. Be reconciled to Him.

Instead of *I love you anyway*, state I love you and because of that, I’m going to pray for you every day. I’m going to fast for you. I’m going to present you with the truth and encourage you to be reconciled with God through Christ. I’m not going to sit back and wring my hands and get all kumbayah with my *feelings*. I’m going to take action.

Instead of being so passive aggressive, he needs to be proactive.

And quit whining about how *sad* he is and how bummed out he is.

Let this stir him to action.


13 posted on 07/01/2015 9:45:25 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Morgana

The BIBLE is HATEFUL!!!



 

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.


14 posted on 07/01/2015 12:56:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
Read today’s first reading about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.





Didn't you people learn ANYTHING

from the smoke of SODOM?

 

-- GOD


 

15 posted on 07/01/2015 12:58:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
Jude

3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord[c] at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

16 posted on 07/01/2015 12:59:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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