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1 posted on 06/30/2015 2:52:06 PM PDT by markomalley
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This SCOTUS session (latest insult to the USA — 10 Commandments must come down in OK) may not destroy Christianity. It will just destroy Christianity IN THE USA.


2 posted on 06/30/2015 2:55:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (When things are rightly ordered, man is steward of God's gifts and civIns law enables him to do so.)
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Not a bad summation. Though the Catholic bias is quite evident by the mention of persecution of Irish Catholics while ignoring that of Protestants throughout the Catholic world.

This part is quite simply inaccurate.

Unlike previous persecutions which were primarily conflicts between Christianity and other religions or heretical sects, the French Revolution marked the first deliberate ideological effort by a government to completely erase all religion from society.

The French revolutionaries were not against all religion. In fact, Robespierre had his own nutty religion of the Supreme Being. He killed those he considered atheists. But the revolutionaries, during certain periods, were certainly death on Catholics who refused to recognize the superiority of the State to the Church.

The Revolution had so many phases, you simply can't say, "The Revolution did this or that."

4 posted on 06/30/2015 3:17:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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8. Penal Laws – 17th through 20th Centuries

The conflicts between Catholics and Protestants in the Reformation were bitter and deadly, but the repression of Irish Catholics was especially malicious. At the worst, priests or anyone who helped hide them were hanged as traitors, and although such overt persecutions stopped in later years, the anti-Catholic restrictions on trade and ownership of property ultimately led to the great famine of 1845-1852 which reduced the population of Ireland by 20-25% through death and emigration.

Yeah, I had a feeling that I'd find something like this on the list.

...if Hughes attacked religious and ethnic bigotry, he also recognized that the dysfunctional behavior of New York’s Irish was more destructive than the discrimination against them. After all, he knew that German immigrants, 40 percent of whom were also Catholic (the majority was Protestant, with a small minority of Jews), were almost immediately successful upon arriving in the country, even though most had come to America with no more money than their Irish counterparts—though they did arrive as intact families to a much greater degree than the Irish. German Catholic immigrants did not experience anything akin to the troubles of Irish Catholics, proving that the source of Irish difficulties was not simply their religion or that their ancestors weren’t English. Tellingly, there are almost no reports of German gangs in the historical period that Gangs of New York—both the movie and the 1928 book by Herbert Asbury on which it is based—portrays.
-- from the thread What Gangs of New York Misses

6 posted on 06/30/2015 3:27:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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